Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oasis (British TV series)


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The result was ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__Keep. Withdrawn by nominator. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Oasis (British TV series)

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Appears to fail WP:NTV, nothing found in a BEFORE to establish notability which is has been tagged for since 2013.

PROD removed with "John Simm's first series is always going to be notable. BEFORE failure", but is that enough for this article to be kept? If that what makes it notable, why wasn't the tag removed at the same time the PROD was? Donald D23  talk to me  15:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and United Kingdom.  Donald D23   talk to me  15:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Aired nationally. No BEFORE articulated, so that nom has not overcome the presumption of notability for a nationally aired program, albeit a short-lived one. Jclemens (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "Playing a loveable down-and-out who becomes a kind of hero to local children he meets in an inner city wilderness was a nice change for Peter McNamara – he's usually a tough guy or a villain. ... The only problem with his new role is that he had to shoot several scenes with horses and as an asthma sufferer he is allergic to them. ... Oasis, the new 10-part children's series made by Carlton, is written by Barry Purchase, who wrote Tucker's Luck and much of Grange Hill. McNamara stars as a rodeo clown who resigns in protest against cruelty and later rescues some of the animals with the idea of setting up a city farm."  The article notes: "﻿Appealing to the even younger was Oasis (ITV, 4.40) a ten-parter about a piece of wasteland in South London which the kids call The Jungle and which has been illegally fenced off by the council until the arrival of Posh Robert (John Simms) a well-educated drop-out. He and drifter Jimmy (Peter McNamara) team up to fight off the council and local villain, Bob Bulger (Bill Stewart) a Faginesque-character who recruits local kids to carry out petty crimes. I hope this series will be popular with children because the plot seems plausible and city-kids can at least identify with the problem of having nowhere safe to play. Some of the older cast members do seem to be overacting, however, a fault I've noticed before in children's productions. Kids are far quicker at detecting a baddie or the untrustworthy than many adults, so snarling a lot just looks daft."  The article notes: "This time the fighters are the capital's youngsters and their struggle is the subject of Oasis, the first major children's television series to be shown by Carlton Television which takes over the London weekday franchise from Thames in January. The oasis is a patch of waste-land which serves as a playground for the children from the rundown estates that surround it but is under threat from office-building developers. ... John Simms co-stars as a disaffected public-school boy escaping from his middle-class background."  The article notes: "ITV: Oasis, 4.40pm. The ten-part drama series for children set in and around a South London wasteland site continues. The site is known to local children as 'the jungle' and they want to keep it for themselves with the help of drifter Jimmy, despite the local council's determination to get the children out and fence it up. The kids' lives are complicated by the activities of a local young hoodlum called Bulger and his mob." Less significant coverage:  The article notes: "There is a sad lack of useful factual programmes for teenagers; even worse is the lack of drama redeemed only by the new 10-parter Oasis (Carlton) set in a south London wasteland inhabited by youngsters who behave like mini Arthur Daleys."</li> <li> The article notes: "OASIS-Carlton Television ten-part children's drama serial, on location in South-East London. Production company: Zenith North. Cast includes: Peter McNamara, Samantha Hammond, Clare Mathews, John Simm, Kelly Frost, George Russo, Curt Clement-Fletcher, May Promjiem, Daniel John, Daniel Brown, Dean Gaffney, Lily Souza, Anthony Lee. Writer: Barry Purchese. Producer: John Price. Directors: Chris Clough, Joanna Hogg."</li> <li> The article notes: "Carlton has produced four peak viewing time dramas. ... Oasis, a ground-breaking children's drama, follows inner-city youngsters who try to convert wasteland into a farm."</li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Oasis to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 00:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * WITHDRAWN based on citations identified by Cunard. Donald D23   talk to me  03:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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