Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oasis disc manufacturing


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Oasis disc manufacturing

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Unremarkable Cd manufacturer, references consist of 1 self reference, and a mention in a college website. Wuh Wuz  Dat  16:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC) JamesBWatson (talk) 17:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Wuhwuzdat's comments. In addition the whole tone of the article is promotional, and a Google search produced mainly the company's own site, other promotional sites, company profile, myspace, etc: no evidence of substantial independent coverage.

Cd historian Thank you, Mr. Watson--I have removed as much of what I think you consider the promotional content as I could without removing the reasons for the entry, it seems a bit of a fine line but I chopped a lot of what I believe you object to. I also added a bunch of links to give more background information. I also re-did one link you removed that was incorrectly done, and agree with the unsubstantiated information you removed. Thank you very much. 20:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)~ Cd historianDear "Mr. Chill" (great pseudonym!) I am surprised that you can't find significant coverage for this company, which is one of the largest of the independent CD replication companies and introduced several new technologies which are now taken for granted, but the onus is on me to clarify that in the article--thus  I have added many more references per the requests above, please review in this light. Thank you for the guidance to a neophyte. 20:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC) There was even one on myspace! The references? One labelled Success Magazine article takes me to an 'article' (on the Oasis website) that looks more written by Oasis than Success. The Success home link takes me to a total mess. There could perhaps be a problem with using Firefox on Win2000Pro instead of Internet Explorer on Vista, but that doesn't bode too well. Apart from which, there is still an odour of spam lingering. I like the idea of the company, but this isn't the place for promoting it. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a directory - or a myspace... Peridon (talk) 22:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this company. Joe Chill (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete In the first 50 ghits for the company, I didn't see one that didn't look promotional.
 * Cd historian ouch... thanks for your input, I think this is confusion; perhaps this is in part a function of Oasis the company correctly uses its current name, Oasis Disc Manufacturing, and other sources (see the references in the article, like Seth Godin's bestseller, Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable, The Washington Post, Seth Godin's ebook Micah's Site, Performing Songwriter Magazine , etc. ) use its prior name, Oasis CD Manufacturing or Oasis CD Duplication. This is easily the most prominent CD and DVD manufacturing company except for Disc Makers, which of course has its own Wikipedia entry; Oasisit has in certain ways at least a similarly storied reputation in the business press and in the eco innovations that would be of interest to you I would think, which is why I wrote the entry and have tried repeatedly to make it conform to your requests.  Please advise further how I can make it conform additionally. 23:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Cd historian Please note I've also changed all external links to internal reference list, I understand about do not follow and was never intended this to be or appear spammy; yikes... my apologies... Cd historian (talk) 01:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Cd historian has clearly put considerable effort into improving the references. Following these improvements the current reference situation is as follows. Eight of the eleven "references" (including both inline citations and external links listed under the heading "references") are links to Oasis's own web site. One is a list from a college of "what some of our ex-students are doing". One is a list of the Washington Area Music Association's awards, in which Oasis's name appears as the company where an award recipient works, and again in an unexplained list in connection with another award: it looks to me like a credit that Oasis did the duplication for the award winner, but in any case it is not at all clear what it is saying about Oasis. The Washington Area Music Association web site makes it clear that the association exists to promote its members' interests. Finally, the one other "reference" is a link to an Amazon page selling a book, which establishes that the book exists. In short, not a lot of evidence of notability. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Cd historianDear Mr. Watson, thank you so much for noting that I have put considerable effort into improving the references.  I have also put considerable effort into improving the article.  I think you are accidentally penalizing the article for my neophyte ability to put together such an article. There is some confusion due to the recent change in name and my attempt to accurately call the page Oasis Disc Manufacturing, rather than its earlier, better known name of Oasis CD Manufacturing or Oasis CD Duplication, something I tried to explain above).  Wikipedia has always had a special interest in music and musicians, and Oasis has "grown up" with wikipedia along those same lines.  Only some of the most prominent oasis collaborators are mentioned in the article, but probably 20% of the independent musicians with wikipedia entries are Oasis clients (I cannot back this up without doing endless research, but I would say that is a conservative figure.) I think it is notable within the Wikipedia community, even if I have so far failed to make the case to you. 14:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Cd historian Wait--try it now, I added about five more external links, including to three additional books that discuss the company (including Gareth Branwyn's), in response to your request for what 'elsewhere' meant, and I removed some of the internal links. I apologize that performing songwriter folded a few months ago, along with the other music magazines that have folded, which is why that link is to our site rather than theirs.  Ditto for the previous iteration of Success; I have added the volume number but need to research the date.  See what you think of the notability now, and please improve the page as you see fit as well.  Thank you. Cd historian (talk) 15:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The three Amazon references are just selling of books with no mention on the page for Oasis. Yes, Micah Solomon appears to have been named Executive of the Year. Good. I quite like the Berklee one - and they are an accredited college. AudibleHype is possibly viewable a blog, but I would personally credit as something more. That'll do for the moment. Peridon (talk) 19:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Cd historian I have now added the publisher information for all four books listed. Thanks. 00:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Cd historian I am sorry to be unclear--all three amazon referenced books include discussions of Oasis--just search amazon for the string oasis cd and you will find their discussions in their books. I can add them in as fuller references with dates and publishers if that is preferable.  Certainly gareth branwyn, seth godin, et. al are viable sources I had thought, let me know how to better credit them.   More to the point, the AMACOM/American Management Association Spring 2010 catalog has been published now, with a full length volume primarily centering on the methods of Oasis and The Ritz-Carlton, so I was now able to reference that.  I have added that link to the article so you can review it directly: Oasis is also the primary case study used along with The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company as the basis for the American Management Association's full-length volume Exceptional Service, Exceptional Profit: The Secrets of Five Star Customer Service Organizations, recently announced for their Spring 2010 catalog. Cd historian  Cd historian (talk) 20:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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