Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obama chmo! (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Uncontested this time around.  Sandstein  15:30, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Obama chmo!
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Previous AfD was in November, and was a less-than-stellar lack of consensus. Keep votes were based on:


 * 1) SHOUTING MAKES THINGS MORE CONVINCING! and
 * 2) Meets WP:GNG with no explanation whatsoever.

News search yields 29 results all but two of which are not in English. One of the English results is a blog and the other result is this article from The Observer about "vulgar and racist" rhetoric in the Russian media. It's got some treatment there but it's not entirely clear why this phrase should be more notable than others mentioned like “Obama is bad” and “Obama is the devil”. Of all things, one of the phrase's claims to fame in the piece is that it got its own Wikipedia article. It claims the article was deleted, but all I saw was the previous no-con AfD. Maybe it was speedied?

Two other English sources on the article, one is a blog, and the other is this The Times article. All I have is a preview, but seems to just be listed along with other propaganda: an image of a Red soldier "sodomizing" a Nazi, and "Bardak Obama" meaning apparently "whorehouse cheat".

To summarize, seems that this is at best a meme and a slur that's gotten very little attention in sources in any language, and basically none in English. Does not appear any more notable than an article on Depictions of Obama with a Hitler mustache, which incidentally, gets 289 results in a news search. In the same vein, Fuck Obama, which this phrase appears to boil down to, gets more than a quarter million. Timothy Joseph Wood 14:24, 16 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - badly sourced neologism, bordering on the notion (sic.) of synthesis. Bearian (talk) 17:42, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:17, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete The phrase's only possible claim to notability is that it was one of four 2015 winners of Russian "Word of the Year" ("anti-language" category). Of the 11 other winners mentioned in that article, none has a Wikipedia article about the word, although seven of the winners are references to events or phenomena that were sufficiently notable for their own articles (none of which mentions the prize-winning Russian word). Perhaps that tells us something about the "notability" of being a winner of Russian "word of the year". — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - on further reflection about what's been in the news, can an administrator see if this is Russian propaganda? Bearian (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The page was created by Messir, who self identifies as Russian, so the most parsimonious answer would seem to be no. Also, looking at their history, apparently there is an article for Putin khuilo! that...exists, which survived a robust AfD, but it seems to have also originated as a song, which turned into a chant some people were actually sent to jail for, and otherwise received more substantial coverage in sources generally. Timothy Joseph Wood  21:25, 27 July 2016 (UTC)


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