Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oblivion Machine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. (SOFTDELETE). NorthAmerica1000 23:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Oblivion Machine

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This article is about a Russian metal band. Previously, the article was at Articles for Creation (got G13'd), which was originally declined for not being notable enough. After it was declined, the editor then created the article proper with the same material added into it. I recently submitted it for speedy deletion, but was declined and was suggested to take it to AfD. So here we are now. As I still believe it fails WP:BAND. GamerPro64 14:19, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I am the administrator who declined the speedy deletion. The article appeared borderline to me. I was tempted to just delete it, except for two things: (1) I could not be certain of the notability of the two record labels that have signed the band &mdash; which, if notable, would qualify the band under WP:BAND criterion #5; and (2) one or two of the references (particularly drugmetal.ru) provided decent coverage, so I thought it's possible that more coverage might be out there (meeting criterion #1), given the band's success at getting signed onto labels that don't seem to be their own vanity label. If those record labels aren't important indie labels in Russia, and the band doesn't actually have significant mainstream or even genre-specific national coverage in Russia, then yes, I'd speedy-delete it. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ⨹   15:48, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 19:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this is relisted for too long without further discussion, and given the ambiguity of notability here, I suggest the closing admin (I won't do it, I'm WP:INVOLVED) delete it as a WP:SOFTDELETE, which would be the same as if deleted by a WP:PROD. That way, the article can be restored at a later time for further improvement by a request at WP:REFUND. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete They're just up-and-coming it seems. I'm not really finding much other than the standard website, youtube, lastFM hits, etc. If you check out Reverb Nation you'll see their stats are still quite low. They'll come around eventually like most, but for now they're just not quite there yet. Dusti*Let's talk!* 18:48, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.