Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Occupy Cleveland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. am willing to help with a merge upon request. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Occupy Cleveland

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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 17:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 17:34, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  Cliff  Smith 17:34, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I actually tend to support the existence of various occupy articles, provided they try to show their notability. This one seems to fail at this, badly. Unless it is rewritten to address that, I am afraid this sub-stub has to go. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * a search turned up numerous additional sources, did you attempt to find sources before your nomination of this article, if so where? i added an additional source about the ows/c member pleading guilty to conspiracy to use a WMD, i assume that will end this debate  Darkstar1st (talk) 17:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Nothing in the article shows notability of the subject.  Even if editors could find sources to establish notability, it is better to delete the article and wait for a an editor to re-write it.  Incidentally the article is entirely about an alleged bombing plot by "members of a splinter group of the Occupy Cleveland movement" and is therefore a POV coatrack.  All the content could be moved to an article about the alleged plot.  TFD (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge I see nothing to set the Cleveland group apart sufficiently to warrant its own article. We have a fine article on the main movement that can easily absorb what is here.   Belch fire  - TALK  18:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. While there are more than enough sources to write a reasonable article about Occupy Cleveland, this isn't it. It reads more like a politically-motivated smear than a legitimate encyclopedia article. - Eureka Lott 19:11, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * so you agree there are sources yet you refuse to improve the article, why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkstar1st (talk • contribs) 19:14, 30 July 2012
 * I have to agree with Darkstar1st -- if there are "more than enough sources" then this isn't an issue for AfD under general notability criteria; it's a question about improving sources and writing of the article. That said, if there is insufficient interest in writing the article at this point, I don't see a problem in having it in the main article and stem off when adequate content is there. --Lquilter (talk) 21:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of notability to me. The current article is a barely-disguised attack page. If there was anything salvageable in the article history, I'd support keeping it. IMO, we'd be better served by a redlink than by keeping material that's this misleading. - Eureka Lott 23:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. It does appear to be a rather random assortment of declarative sentences. --Lquilter (talk) 01:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe WP:TNT is the page you're looking for. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:17, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's what I had in mind. Thank you! - Eureka Lott 00:31, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.