Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ocean Animals

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was move to a Wikiproject, then delete the subsequent redirect. This page will therefore be at a new location: School_and_university_projects/Ocean Animals. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ocean Animals
This article apparently started as a school project for the kids to learn how to write and cite sources (see teachers explanation) Duk 04:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'd move it to a project page and then redirect Ocean Animals so the kiddies don't get lost. Harro5 04:54, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Move: As Harro5 said, move to project page. But, I would not use the redirect. That leaves a vestigial trace that is not appropriate. --Durin 05:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Move as per Harro5, do not redirect. -- Lochaber 10:20, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Wrong namespace. Do what we did with Method Engineering Encyclopedia: WikiProjectify (either there or at School and university projects) and mercilessly edit. Uncle G 11:29, 2005 May 24 (UTC)
 * Keep. The term "Ocean Animals" has encyclopaedic value (it's not just fish, as many are mammals, etc).  Needs to be expanded a lot, however.  Add a stub tag to it, and wikifi. Internodeuser 13:32, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The content of this article is already covered elsewhere. Expanding it would be redundant. --Durin 13:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * So if I was looking for information on ocean animals, how would I find it? Kappa 16:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * One direct method would be to jump off the deck rail of a Cunard liner. Barno 23:00, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * (K, that's not really intended as a childish insult, but a straightforward if overliteral answer to your question.) However, I see there's not as much in Ocean as I expected, and nothing in Animal that breaks out ocean-living animals.  We might have need for an article describing the range of oceangoing life forms by family, with perhaps a section based on geography.  But we don't need an article that simply lists and describes four species (out of hundreds of thousands) which happen to live in oceans, with no context or classification.  So I vote to WikiProjectify or delete this article, which isn't a good starting point, and list on requested articles.  Barno 23:00, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Try Anglerfish, Brain coral, Clownfish, and Humpback Whale. Are you suggesting we replicate information from other pages into a grand page that covers all species of ocean animals? That would GREATLY exceed the preferred maximum size for Wikipedia articles. --Durin 22:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * If I already knew about Anglerfish I could go straight there. I think I am suggesting something like what Barno describes. Kappa 23:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing Kappa means the sealife-by-classification-and-geography proposal, not the first thing I described in this thread. (grinning)  Barno 00:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The suggestion for a new article describing the range of oceangoing life forms has already been done. See Category:Aquatic organisms. This article, were we to follow suggestions as above, would merely be a replicate of the category article I referenced here. At best, if we keep this article, it should be a redirect to that category page. --Durin 03:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Move to project page.--Duk 16:37, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but add a stub tag.
 * Move to a project page and encourage class to merge to real articles where and when applicable. I applaud the teacher for being bold and starting this project. We can always use future, good contributors who know how to cite sources for verifiability. Double Blue  (Talk) 03:25, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .