Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/October 2022 German railway attack




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is abundantly clear. BD2412 T 02:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 German railway attack

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It's just a news story but not notable in an encyclopedic sense. It should therefore be deleted due to missing notability. --TheRandomIP (talk) 19:49, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Germany. Shellwood (talk) 21:03, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Not worthy of its own article. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  21:03, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unencyclopedic. This attack falls below the standard of notability that is given to other attacks, such as the Nashville bombing in 2020 and the 2022 New York City Subway shooting, both which have significant background where the perpetrator had a complicated motive that is almost at, but falls below, the line at which media would call it "terrorism". A lot of cyberattacks also are quite notable because of the sheer scale of destruction they usually cause (WannaCry and NotPetya). If this got international news coverage because of the serious political or large-scale societal implications this had it would almost certainly be worthy for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 21:50, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable event of sabotage on large-scale public infrastructure. International coverage is already cited in the article; about a dozen more sources given in the German wiki article. -- Mikeblas (talk) 22:32, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The highest german criminal investigation authority just took over the investigations. Add reactions of many security experts like AG KRITIS (documented here (german laguage) and german politicians. Clearly notable. - Thylacin (talk) 16:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC) Addition: German Wikipedia decided to keep: . - Thylacin (talk) 09:05, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:22, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep Has plenty of international coverage, as suggested as a measure of importance by WP:NEVENT. I suggest we at least wait before deletion. Ovinus (talk) 22:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The event recieved worldwide coverage, including, among other publications, Trains Magazine. This was no run-of-the-mill event that befell Deutsche Bahn. TH1980 (talk) 03:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: per WP:NOTNEWS. This is a encyclopedia and not an AP wire service even though we do report on current events and "Breaking News", we should be careful when editing, especially when a living person is named as this invokes the BLP policy even if not noted on the talk page. A consideration, as WP:ATD, would be merge (where content is not based on more stringent policies and guidelines) or even redirect to Deutsche Bahn, where I missed any mention. Furthering sensationalism and unsubstantiated comments made by one person, echoed by news agency, about a rather current event steps outside the line of encyclopedic. The best support for my opinion is from two "keep" !votes above: "The highest german criminal investigation authority just  took over the investigations" (link left out)", and "I suggest we at least wait before deletion.". With only vague mentions, suppositions, and comments that the Russians may be involved, this does not appear to be encyclopedic content for a stand alone article, and shows it is too soon. We are not under any timeline so getting it right is better than just reporting it.  --  Otr500 (talk) 13:50, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep This was an unprecedented act of sabotage on a nation's critical infrastructure that attracted global attention and is notable on those bases. It was not an event that happens periodically and has no lasting implications. Rather, it raised the issue that attacks on a nation's civilian infrastructure outside of a war zone may be a new tactic of international conflict. The attack sparked widespread discussion in Germany and elsewhere about the need to protect vulnerable infrastructure, an issue gaining greater attention as a result of this attack. It has lasting notability for that reason and is not a transient news item. Marco polo (talk) 18:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep the article needs to be updated but AfD is not cleanup, WP:GNG is satisfied. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.