Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Odell Louis Dubree


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The result was   delete. It sounds like he did a great service to his country and that he had a long and fulfilling life, my condolences to his family and friends for their recent loss; however he does not meet the threshold of notability laid out at WP:N. Icewedge (talk) 03:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Odell Louis Dubree

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One of millions of soldiers who fought bravely in World War II, but nothing in this article indicates that he meets the notability standards of WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Does not meet WP:BIO; this biography reveals nothing unique or important that he did. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 01:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I think I speak for everyone here when I express our sympathies to the family of Staff Sergeant Dubree, who passed away on October 10. Needless to say, Wikipedia is not a memorial.  However, the nomination has brought the article about him from out of the millions of other articles, and into the forefront for awhile, and more people have read about Mr. Dubree than might otherwise have happened.  In practice, the page will stay up for a few more days, and I think it has served its intended purpose. Mandsford (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Does meet WP:BIO; according to the Any Biography section in WP:BIO a person can be consider notable if that person has received a notable award or honor. I can think of no higher award than the Purple Heart. Furthermore, I am shocked that under WP:BIO it talks about being notable if you are a pornographic actor or a criminal but says nothing about veterans and especially those who received Purple Hearts. There is a difference between being notable and being famous. I think the WP:BIO should definitely be used for notability and not be confused with infamy. A Purple Heart recipient is definitely notable. They might not be famous to most people alive today, but they were famous in the small towns across America that they returned to after the War. I think more people would be interested in researching Purple Heart recipients and how they were wounded in battle rather than Porn Stars and their performances. There were approximately 200,000 Purple Hearts awarded during WWII compared to the 13,104,355 total number of soldiers that fought in WWII. With those numbers I would consider the Purple Heart medal very hard to obtain. I would like to make a larger plea to the Wikipedians out there to make Purple Heart recipients just as notable as porn stars and criminals. 208.176.248.6 (talk) 13:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Robert
 * Comment A Purple Heart means that the recipient was wounded in battle. While we all appreciate the sacrifice they made for their country, I respectfully disagree that everyone who was wounded in battle is automatically notable enough to have a Wikipedia article.  Counting the other U.S. wars, that would be hundreds of thousands of soldier biographies.  NawlinWiki (talk) 14:38, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would concur with that 100 percent. I can think of many higher awards than the Purple Heart.  I'm glad that Staff Sergeant Dubree, like my own late Dad, was able to come home from the War, and have a career, and raise his family.  There were more than 300,000 U.S. servicemen who never made it home alive from World War II, and if any group of people deserved an article of their own, it would be the people who paid the ultimate price.  However, an encyclopedia that anyone can contribute to must, by necessity, set rules, and WP:MEMORIAL is one of those necessities. Mandsford (talk) 15:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * To be specific, there are 20 United States military awards higher than the purple heart. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 15:41, 13

October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - I would also like to point out that the statistic given by the anon is false; those are the number of purple hearts awarded retroactively. National Geographic estimates the spread of purple hearts received, as of August 2008, to be as follow:
 * World War II: 964,409
 * Korea: 136,936
 * Vietnam: 200,676
 * Persian Gulf: 590
 * Afghanistan: 2,743 (as of 8/21/2008)
 * Iraq: 33,923 (as of 8/21/2008)


 * So, this man is one in over one million recipients. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 17:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete – as per my WP:PROD rationale, lack of reliable secondary sources to establish sufficient notability as well as the fact that Wikipedia is not a memorial. (Person apparently died on 10 October 2009 with the article created on 12 October.) There are also other awards that likely higher than the Purple Heart (even though for every other military decoration, servicemembers are recommended for them as opposed to being entitled it for being wounded in action). Such as the Medal of Honor, Silver Star, Bronze Star, and the Meritorious Service Medal. MuZemike 17:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
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