Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Office of the Former President


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Former Presidents Act. Eddie891 Talk Work 02:20, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Office of the Former President

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WP:NOTNEWS. Not every WP:FART from Donald Trump is notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Former Presidents Act. Note that Post-presidency of Donald Trump (currently a redirect to the biography) will probably end up needing to be a separate article. We have a number of such articles all following that naming convention. Neutralitytalk 01:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The post-transition designation "Office of the Former President" predates (and is obviously therefore not unique to) Trump. In the original incarnation of this article, this was cited to a GSA issue paper describing the process.
 * Trump's declaration of there now being such an office for him does not seem like a topic for an entire article. The article should be revised/reverted to reflect that this is not a Trump-specific component of a presidential transition, or redirected, as it once was, to the Former Presidents Act article.--NapoliRoma (talk) 02:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Former Presidents Act as previously done; all presidents have offices after they finish in office (see Bill Clinton and the various issues with him finding an office in the New York area), and this is hardly a new concept. The current article as-is pretty much has one reference duplicated seven times but re-written for certain audiences, which isn't acceptable.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 04:56, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Former Presidents Act. There is no such office as "the former president". There are a number of former presidents, who as private citizens after they have left the actual office (in the sense of political office) of president may establish a private/personal office (in the sense of a room with a handful of office workers) to help them with their correspondence etc. As noted, all former presidents have some office help of this nature, it's nothing special, and doesn't merit its own article. --Tataral (talk) 08:26, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to Former Presidents Act. I had previously redirected the article to both of the proposed targets (Former Presidents Act and Post-presidency of Donald Trump), but after giving it more thought, even if Trump chose to make "The Office Of The Former President" the name of his office, that office isn't actually notable for the reasons Tataral described. Redirects are cheap, but I'd also be fine with deleting the redirect entirely if there's a consensus that the name "office of the former president" gives the misimpression that it's a real public office or position, or that it's even an office (singular) at all. In my opinion, the only reason why this Trump story got as much (short-term) attention as it did is because of the name. Either outcome is fine by me, just not keeping it in mainspace as a standalone article.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 10:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTNEWS The article's sources do not meet the criteria to justify its existence, and there is no reason to believe that will change. --DawnDusk (talk) 23:26, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So pleased that Wikipedia has kept this article. Big brother would like to remove it but the existence of this factually correct article proves that America is still a free country, no matter what your political beliefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.228.118 (talk) 19:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect, per above. Mgasparin (talk) 22:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTNEWS Not an official office. Equine-man (talk) 23:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment It's not an elected or appointed position, but the "Office of the President" is an officially recognized component of the presidential transition, just as the "Office of the President-Elect" is. See here where the GSA discusses Clinton's Office of the Former President reimbursing the government, here where they "support the Office of the Former President" for G W Bush, and here where they discuss the presidential transition in general in the context of the then-upcoming 2016 election, and describe their role in establishing and funding the Office of the Former President.


 * Comment By official I meant a recognised elected/appointed position. I would support the redirect back to where it was originally. Equine-man (talk) 17:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This would seem to justify a redirect to the FPA article rather than a deletion.--NapoliRoma (talk) 05:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect, unless this actually becomes a big deal later on. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 02:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do not censorship DONALD TRUMP WE see what you are doing and we DONT LIKE IT. We OWN YOU. You don’t OWN US — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:CE01:C550:9C33:4EDA:BFA1:1F9D (talk) 21:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Former Presidents Act. "Office of the Former President" refers to the respective office of every former president set up under the Former Presidents Acts, e.g., The Office of Barack and Michelle Obama, Office of George W. Bush. The name of Trump's office—per the letterhead—seems to be "The Office of Donald J. Trump." Adding source for "Office of Donald J. Trump": https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-25/trump-opens-office-to-carry-on-agenda-of-his-administration. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 12:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The fact that someone thought this might be Trump specific shows that it is a not widely used term and not worth having an article on. Also, this is meant to be a global encyclopedia, there are more people with president as a title than the president of the US.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.