Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Officer Designate


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Officer Designate

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Aas far as I can tell, there is no actual documentation that this category exists in NATO terminology. Therefore, this article needs to be deleted, or updated with the actual source. Note: I checked the STANAG 2116 online, and I find no reference to the ranks listed in this article, with the exception of Midshipman in the UK, which is considered OF-1. Kirk (talk) 15:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

In addition, all the NATO rank articles have tables with OF(D), and many have ranks listed which need to be changed. Kirk (talk) 15:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. From the British MOD website. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Which is contradicted by this table - http://www.babelport.com/articles/stanag2116.htm. Maybe someone can find the actual NATO document which defines 'Officer Designate' and the abbreviation OF(D)?  Kirk (talk) 17:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So let me get this straight. You're taking Babelport, an "online community" probably less reliable than Wikipedia, as a source equivalent in reliability to the official website of the British Government ministry which actually runs the armed forces? I don't think so. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, but it matches what's in the actual NATO documentation STANAG 2116. If its a NATO term it should have a reference to NATO documentation somewhere.  I also checked the NATO abbreviations document AAP-15 and the glossary AAP-42 which are available from the NATO website, and neither have OF(D) as a valid abbreviation, nor Officer Designate.  Kirk (talk) 17:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep official government site is a valid reference. RP459 (talk) 19:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:V is met for the UK rank at least, and for topics like this it should also mean that there are sufficient sources to satisfy WP:N. The article does need a bit of work though to source everything. Nick-D (talk) 07:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


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