Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oh Dear! What Can the Matter Be?


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 08:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh Dear! What Can the Matter Be?

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Contested prod. Although the song may be well known, the article is nothing more than a copy of the lyrics. As far as I can tell, it does not meet general notability criteria, no references or sources are provided, and there is no indication of any encyclopedic content. WP:IINFO CultureDrone (talk) 09:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Well-sourced, notable subject matter. AFD is used to discuss whether articles are notable enough, not content issues. Content issues are handled at the article level. The article includes the lyrics in context as part of a discussion of the song's evolution, and the song predates 1923 so therefore the lyrics are completely fair game. I don't see an issue. 23skidoo (talk) 17:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * strong keep actually does contain more content than the nom. inaccurately claims, which people will clearly see if they view it. There are paragraphs of content, with refs, between versions of the song.  Otherwise it could just be on wikisource, but it does contain more content so in this form does also belong here.  For instance Early One Morning does have an article here, as do other songs, with content.  Anyway, AfD is not for clean-up and the subject is notable regardless of the article's current form (which is fine anyway.) Sticky Parkin 18:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Traditional songs are notable, and additional material can be added. DGG (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep When I removed the deletion proposal, it wasn't an obvious keep, but should not have been deleted without discussion. The article has grown, and now it's a real keep. Fg2 (talk) 01:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep as a well-known traditional song. I was interested to see that this is yet another trans-Atlantic cultural difference - here in the UK only three old ladies were locked in the lavatory. I'll try to find a source for that so it can go in the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Well, it didn't take long to find some sources for "three old ladies", but I don't have time to add them to the article at the moment. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


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