Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ohio Wesleyan Sweetly and Strong


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The result was   redirect to Ohio Wesleyan University.  MBisanz  talk 08:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Ohio Wesleyan Sweetly and Strong

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Sigh. Well, this really should have just played out as a prod, but here it is. Prodded several days ago by me, redirect to Ohio Wesleyan University by User:Esasus, redirect reverted by User:Ruhrfisch on the quite rational grounds that Wesleyan is an FA and this is unreferenced, largely copyvio material and should not go there. User:Esasus rejoins that the prod was removed so it has to go to afd, so here we are. 90% of the article is copyvio. The rest is unencyclopedic and largely inaccurate. This is not important enough to stand as its own article, and there is no cause to redirect the non-copyvio stuff because it is unferenced and Wesleyan is a featured article, and some of the information is outright wrong (Ohio Wesleyan does not have a "Glee Club" and while the song is sung at certain events like convocation, it does not "traditionally conclude campus performances"). Indrian (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Ohio Wesleyan University. It is clearly where this information belongs. Esasus (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But we can't do that. Yes, we should have a line about the song in the main OWU article, but this information is bad.  OWU is an FA, therefore, all information needs to be sourced.  This article is unsourced, and much of the factual information is wrong, so sources will not be forthcoming.  There is also the copyvio issue.  If this is merged into OWU, it will be immediately removed anyway for these reasons.  Why then, would we merge? Indrian (talk) 15:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Then fix the article so it is correct, remove the copyvio, merge, and redirect.  If the best b=name for that is IAR, call it IAR and do it. DGG (talk) 04:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, except the general reason for a merge and redirect in this situation is to presrve contributor history. If the best thing to do is start from scratch in the main article, there is no reason for this one. If someone wants to "fix" the article, they are obviously welcome to, but I have no desire to do so. Indrian (talk) 05:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  00:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No (factual) assertion of notability. twirligig T tothe C 02:24, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: non-notable song. JamesBurns (talk) 06:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I am fine with a sentence on this song in the OWU article as long as it can be reliably sourced. I do not seethat here. Sorry to have missed this until now, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and delete: Add a sentence to Ohio Wesleyan University giving the name of the school's alma mater (surely a source can be found for that), and delete this article. There is no evidence that the song is notable. --Orlady (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, Merge and delete is not an actionable vote. If the content is merged, the original article must be kept as a redirect to preserve contributor history.  The reason I personally favor a delete is becaue the information in this article is generally unsourced and unreliable, so it is better to start over in the main article.  In that case, a redirect is not required. Indrian (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


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