Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ohr Avner Chabad Day School (Volgograd)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No prejudice towards merging, but that's a discussion for the article talk page. The outcome is definitely not delete, so AfD's job is done here. Kurykh (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Ohr Avner Chabad Day School (Volgograd)

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Minor school, no evidence of notability. XXN, 23:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note: There are a few more on Ohr Avner Chabad Day School. Debresser (talk) 19:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per prior outcomes. The school exists, see for example "The Jewish community of Volgograd was proudly represented by the ‘Levavot Shirim’ Choir, which functions under the auspices of the Ohr Avner Chabad Day School.... so WP:V is met. K.e.coffman (talk) 18:55, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Ohr Avner Foundation. Yes, it actually passes my strict standards for schools! Yes, it is verifiably real. However, is so small (about 155 students total in all grades) to be difficult to source by itself and make more than a two-paragraph stub. I'll add the source found by . Bearian (talk) 12:13, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:04, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge for lack of notability as the available coverage falls far short of that required by NSCHOOLS. Of note, the widely-attended RFC on secondary school notability closed today with a finding that arguments based on SCHOOLOUTCOMES are not valid at AfD:  Rebb  ing  02:05, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I think thats quite a selective quote from the RFC. It also says
 * CalzGuy (talk) 08:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * "Editors are not expected to prove the negative that sources do not exist, but they should make a good-faith effort to find them." I assume you and I have both made such a good-faith effort, and the best we've got is the cited post—not nearly enough for any applicable guideline. Cf. GNG ("There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected."); NRVE ("The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity . . . ."). Rebb  ing  09:33, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - a reliable source is referenced in the article to show that the school exists and educates older teenagers. Sufficiently notable as per recent RFC close CalzGuy (talk) 08:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Longstanding consensus is that the sources here establish notability for a secondary school. Alansohn (talk) 03:01, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per comments above. --David Tornheim (talk) 11:54, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Ohr Avner Chabad Day School. I am also placing merge tags on the other school articles, Ohr Avner Chabad Day School (Baku) and Ohr Avner Chabad Day School (Tashkent). I've done a bit of Google searching and can say that there is very little information available about the schools or the school network in the general press; the main sources of information are the Chabad websites chabad.org, lubavitch.com, and shmais.com. It would be better to place these individual schools as subheads in the main Ohr Avner Chabad Day School article and work on sourcing them there. As it is, the main article is also a stub. Yoninah (talk) 17:00, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * These schools are all in different countries. Why should they be merged?  --David Tornheim (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


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