Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old German Shepherd Dog


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The result was merge to Old German herding dogs.  MBisanz  talk 03:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Old German Shepherd Dog

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Fails WP:GNG. The page has three citations, the first is appears to be the German breed club (itself not an independent reliable source) which shows no hits for “ Altdeutscher Schäferhund” in it search function. The second is a dead link about German Shepherds in the FCI website, their |FCI’s German Shepherd standard makes no mention of the type, only that the German Shepherd can have either a short or a long coat. The third reference cannot be verified. A google search found nothing attributable. Cavalryman (talk) 09:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:15, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:15, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Previous nomination – I have just discovered a previous nomination under an incorrect spelling, Articles for deletion/Old German Sheperd Dog. The arguments for keep seem to be there is an article on German Wikipedia and “Altdeutscher Schäferhund” generates a number of google hits. The German page appears to have had an issues notice in place since 2012 and as stated above I could find nothing attributable on google. Cavalryman (talk) 10:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC).


 * Redirect to German shepherd dog, not separately notable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:57, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge or redirect to Old German herding dogs - also see Arbeitsgemeinschaft zur Zucht Altdeutscher Hütehunde (AAH) which appears to be notable with an established federal association, documented history with photographs, and numerous sub associations within it. See German WP article. Atsme Talk 📧 12:38, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a muddle, the topic is not that described by the page title. So:
 * Merge any useable content to German Shepherd Dog, of which this appears to be an unrecognised variant; but then
 * Redirect the page to our article on old German shepherd dogs.
 * NB This is not one of the eight historic breeds of old German shepherd dog listed here by the Gesellschaft zur Erhaltung alter und gefährdeter Haustierrassen – they are the Altdeutscher Tiger, the Fuchshunde, the Gelbbacke, the Rollhaariger Altdeutscher, the Schaf- or Hütepudel, the Schwarzer Altdeutscher, the Strobel and the Süddeutscher Schwarzer (the Westerwälder Kuhhund, also listed on that page, is a cow-herding breed). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:43, 20 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Old German herding dogs. The article states that this is simply a long-haired variety of the German shepherd for which "there are efforts to establish this variety as a separate breed." Only it is not a breed, and the variety is not notable.  William Harris Canis lupis track.svg talk Canis lupis track.svg 20:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)


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