Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old Pueblo Firefighters Association


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The result was Delete. Stifle (talk) 11:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Old Pueblo Firefighters Association

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Non-notable labor union. ¿SFGi Д nts! ¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review! 19:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for reasons given. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - Well, there is this and this . I'm sure that the Arizona Star is a reliable source.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined  /  C ) 20:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - This perticular one may be small, but Trade Unions are notable. Cites are recomended, but, AfD is not for forcing article improvement. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  03:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Update - I have added EL's highlighting the fact that this FireFighting organization is a Corperation/Business, not your usual public service fire department. The reletive uncommoness of the Business aspect I believe supports the Notability of this Article's subject. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  12:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Having twelve toes is unusual, that doesn't mean that everyone with twelve toes is notable. In this case the sourcing required for a topic to meet the primary notability criteria or the specific criteria for organisations has not been shown to exist. Guest9999 (talk) 00:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You are correct in some degree, however I believe there are more people with 12 toes in the US, than there are For Hire Fire Dep't business' and their (non-IAFF) Labour Unions. It is that rareness that does make this, and its related Articles, encyclopedic to document. The only Policy that must be satisfied is WP:V, and that has been done. There is no hurry to satisfy the other Guidelines that you quote. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  03:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - no evidence of significant coverage by reliable, independent secondary sources. Of the two sources given above one appears to be about a trivial mention in a "Community Notes" section and whilst I can't view the body of the other article,the title "Local firefighters sent $115,000 to N.Y." suggests that it is a one off news story about a fund-raiser and will likely not contain enough encyclopaedic information about the organisation to justify an article. Guest9999 (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see how this meets WP:ORG.  Is every small labor union notable, I think not. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only 3rd party references are trivial. Plvekamp (talk) 06:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


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