Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old Yeller (song)


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The result was redirect to Old Yeller (film). Content can be merged from the history.  Sandstein  14:47, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Old Yeller (song)

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Fails WP:NSONG HindWikiConnect 02:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. HindWikiConnect 02:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. --Animalparty! (talk) 03:57, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Old Yeller (film), per Note 1. of WP:NSONG. I cannot find evidence of notability: it exists, gets passing mentions in print, but even The Disney Song Encyclopedia devotes all of 3 sentences to it. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:08, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  J  947  (c · m)  04:38, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak merge without redirect to Old Yeller (film) – This unreferenced article contains no indication of notability outside of the film. A sentence or two in that article would be fitting given its size. Animalparty correctly notes that in The Disney Song Encyclopedia there is all of 3 sentences to it but that constituted a reasonably-sized paragraph (67 words)—which is slightly undersized considering the rest of the book though—which I will barely count as significant coverage. For reference the exact placing in the book is here. The book was authored by an 'internationally recognized' writer (Thomas S. Hischak, bio here) and another respected author by the name of Mark A. Robinson, showing independentness and reliability. Unfortunately I can not find any more sources . There may be sources in print, thus the 'weak'. Not delving into NSONG here because I am unfamiliar with it.  J 947  (c · m)  05:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No redirect because of the title disambiguator, by the way.  J 947  (c · m)  05:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not at all opposed to a few lines of text being added to Old Yeller (film) to mention the song and soundtrack, but I don't see why (song) would preclude this as a redirect. Per WP:RPURPOSE, redirects help readers quickly find the intended information, whether via Wikipedia search or Google search for say "Old Yeller song". Also, Redirects are cheap, and it could be still be categorized in song categories, per WP:RCAT. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:57, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No, redirects are not indexed by Google, for example see that the 9/11 redirect is not here. Wikipedia's search engine does, but how likely are you to search 'Old Yeller (song)'?  J 947  (c · m)  23:44, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * We can't predict what people will or will not search, and if any content is merged a redirect must be maintained. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:00, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment no opinion on this matter as a whole, but if this is merged, it should be redirected to preserve attribution for copyright reasons with CC-BY-SA 3.0. There isn't a good reason to delete and merge here (an outcome that is possible, and that I have helped to implement in past, but the need for it needs to be compelling.) TonyBallioni (talk) 02:35, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Strucken. Attribution slipped to the back of my mind there.  J 947  (c · m)  04:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.