Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oleander (former town), California


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The result was delete. —&#8239; The Earwig (talk) 07:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Oleander (former town), California

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Taking this one to AFD rather than PROD, as it's hard to conduct a WP:BEFORE as Oleander, California (a separate place) is in the same county and is causing a lot of unavoidable search engine noise. There's no GNIS entry for this Oleander, and there's nothing on the topographic maps suggesting that there was a community at this location. Neither Oleander is in Gudde's place names book. This just doesn't seem to be a notable location. Hog Farm Talk 19:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 19:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 19:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as a mislocated Oleander, California, which is clearly located on the railroad four miles directly south of where the AT&SF Railroad crosses the Southern Pacific at Calwa, California. This is shown on maps and confirmed in descriptions such as this which has it 7 miles SE of Fresno and 3 miles from Fowler. It's inconceivable that there would be another station of the same name just 10 miles away near Selma at the site of Wineland, California which served a different settlement.--Pontificalibus 08:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Question Do you believe that the source is in error, or that it's been misinterpreted, or that the source is correct but that it isn't sufficient for notability, or something else? I'm leaning toward #1 but I'm not sure.  Nyttend (talk) 16:41, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * - Quite possibly all three. I've had quite a bit of experience with the Durham source as part of the cleanup, and most of the time, I've seen several issues.  As to #1, the source has sometimes been found to include errors - see Articles for deletion/Sykes, California, where Durham was found to have erroneously introduced the name of "Skyes, California" as a separate place when it was just an error for Sykes.  For #2, see User talk:Carlossuarez46 where the source was tracked down and it was discovered that the claims of communities in most of these articles were not supported by the source and were basically fabricated. Lastly, the results of hundreds of AFDs and PRODs for places from Durham have held that a simply listing in there is not enough for notability.  So yeah, the Durham citation is basically useless here. Hog Farm Talk 17:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the details. BTW, I meant "I think you're meaning #1 but I'm not sure".  I have no opinion on any of them, since I've not looked at any of them.  Nyttend (talk) 18:42, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * delete as some sort of mistake. There is no SF line in the area where this supposedly was, nor any other rail line, so this fails verification. Mangoe (talk) 23:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


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