Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oliver Narbett


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Setting aside the blatant ChatGPT arguments and the IPs who are quacking into a megaphone, nobody has advanced any legitimate argument that this article meets our guidelines. The Wordsmith Talk to me 03:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Oliver Narbett

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BLP of an ultra runner whose main claim to notability is that he “ holds the Guinness World Record for the "Fastest marathon dressed as a Morris dancer (male)". Other than that I don’t see anything that would meet our requirements for an article. Mccapra (talk) 08:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and United Kingdom. Mccapra (talk) 08:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  19:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think this article should be retained for a number of reasons. Firstly, setting a Guinness World Record is an impressive and notable achievement (it has media coverage). Secondly, the individual has run some of the toughest and most notable ultrarunning events on the planet, which is no small feat. Thirdly, there are other similar articles of ultrarunners who have also set Guinness World Records, see Rik Vercoe (for example at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rik_Vercoe), so this profile corresponds with current practice. Fourthly, the individual has run over 100 marathons in addition to his record setting events, which is incredible, there are a number of sports person articles detailing sportsperson who have achieved a lot less in their sporting career (for example footballers making only a few professional appearances (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Oliver_(footballer)). Fifthly, the individual seems to have a number of notable relations. 62.190.87.10 (talk) 20:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with this argument. It makes sense to retain the article, given the five reasons explained. 92.40.212.243 (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks like the individual has also won the "I Run & I Know Things 2020" timed event ultramarathon, taking first place after covering more distance than other competitors in the allotted time (https://saturn.runiverse.co.uk/result.php?eventID=52), another notable and impressive feat. 62.190.87.10 (talk) 20:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment I’ll add that this article is possibly an autobiography by an account which has edited little else on Wikipedia. I’m delighted the IPs above agree with each other on this matter (rolls eyeballs). Mccapra (talk) 20:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There are a number of notable achievements and media references, no? 62.190.87.10 (talk) 21:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for your continued commitment to upholding Wikipedia's standards and for your observations regarding the potential autobiographical nature of the article.
 * I would like to clarify that, as a new editor, my contributions to Wikipedia have indeed been focused but are driven by a genuine interest in a specific niche. So far, my efforts have been concentrated on drafting articles and making edits related to the Welsh town of Narberth and individuals who have historical, ancestral, or cultural connections to this area. This focus is due to my personal interest, knowledge in this particular subject area and recent news articles that have come to my attention.
 * Going forward, I plan to continue contributing to Wikipedia by drafting articles and updating existing ones that meet this criteria. My recent efforts in this space are indicative of my commitment to enhancing the content related to this specific area of interest, and I hope these contributions provide some assurance as to my credibility and intentions as a Wikipedia editor.
 * I look forward to continuing to contribute constructively to Wikipedia and appreciate the opportunity to clarify my editorial focus and intentions. I appreciate your dedication to maintaining the quality and accuracy of Wikipedia's content. Narbethwriter (talk) 02:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your commitment to Wikipedia's standards. Regarding the proposed deletion, I would like to reinforce the argument for retaining the article on the ultra runner, now also considering additional notable achievements.
 * Enhanced Argument for Retention Based on Notability Guidelines:
 * Significance of Achievement: The subject's holding of a Guinness World Record for the "Fastest marathon dressed as a Morris dancer (male)" is a unique and notable accomplishment. This achievement alone is "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded," in line with Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people.
 * Coverage in Reliable Sources: The individual's achievements have been covered in credible sources, including an article by Eleanora Pilastro on achievements at the Berlin Marathon and a listing on the Guinness Book of World Records' official record page. These sources demonstrate significant attention from the media, satisfying the general notability guideline.
 * Additional Notable Achievements: Besides the Guinness World Record, the ultra runner has completed some of the most challenging ultramarathons globally, including the Marathon Des Sables. This adds another layer to the subject's notability, showcasing endurance and achievement in extreme sports.
 * Sports Notability: The completion of prestigious ultramarathons like the Marathon Des Sables, combined with the Guinness World Record, aligns with the specific notability guidelines for sports figures. These accomplishments reflect significant honours within the sports community.
 * Argument Based on Deletion Policy:
 * Presumption in Favour of Inclusion: With the subject's achievements being more than just a single event and including participation in world-renowned ultramarathons, the article aligns with Wikipedia's preference for inclusion, especially when the subject demonstrates potential for ongoing notability.
 * Potential for Improvement and Future Notability: The subject's continued participation in challenging sporting events suggests a trajectory of increasing notability. The article has the potential for future development as more achievements and recognition may arise.
 * In summary, considering the Guinness World Record, media coverage from reputable sources, and participation in notable ultramarathons like the Marathon Des Sables, the subject of the article meets the notability criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. The achievements in ultra running, combined with the record, support the case for the subject's notability, in line with Wikipedia's guidelines for sports personalities and biographies. The principle of inclusion and the potential for future notability further endorse retaining the article on Wikipedia. Narbethwriter (talk) 02:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment: fyi to closer in case they're not familiar with the style, these are pretty obvious LLM-generated comments above by Narbethwriter. -- asilvering (talk) 02:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.