Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia Sanabia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Cunard's extensive search apparently fails to convince the other editors here (or even convinces them that available sourcing is insufficient). Randykitty (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Olivia Sanabia

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Fails to meet WP:BASIC or WP:GNG notability requirements, with a lack of high-quality reliable sources and significant coverage. Recent news articles about her, which include her being in a parade or holiday season projects in late 2022, have been simply mere mention or in such a way that she's not shown as prominent. Even a Billboard article talking about Tanya Tucker's A Nashville Country Christmas gives Sanabia only a mere mention.

She may barely pass WP:NACTOR, with her more notable projects in Just Add Magic and Coop & Cami Ask the World, but recent, successful AfD's I've seen for a couple of other actresses who would technically meet NACTOR (e.g., Abby Donnelly and Lauren Lindsey Donzis) are indicating that the more important guidelines for notability are the general ones above, and the current sourcing in this article, plus what I could scrape from searching, are insufficient in establishing that.

Sanabia doesn't meet the WP:NSINGER requirements. Three songs listed, none of which have articles and none of which have made a presence on a national music chart that isn't WP:SINGLEVENDOR (so Spotify and Apple are excluded in this criterion). Even if she were to meet NSINGER, like she does NACTOR (again, barely), there must be significant coverage in a variety of reliable sources to establish that and overall notability. As of right now, however, WP:TOOSOON on NSINGER.

This has been made a redirect before, to her main project Just Add Magic. Because she is main cast in Coop & Cami... as well, redirect isn't feasible at all. I might have thoughts of placing this in draft space instead, but I can't say her acting and/or singing careers are expected to blossom big in the next couple of years. So I'm favoring deletion. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women,  and California. Skynxnex (talk) 17:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:12, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm going to open with a comment – subject gets only passing mentions in Variety, THR, and Deadline, and went almost entirely unmentioned in Entertainment Weekly (and New York Times). This is a bad sign for passing WP:BASIC... That said, she does appear to have a profile in Los Angeles Times from 2016, though it's in their "sub-publication"(?) called High School Insider (which likely lessens its importance as a source):  I'm definitely leaning "delete" here (draftify might make sense if she has stuff in the pipeline, but I don't see any evidence for that) – I think this may be another case where a subject "passes" WP:NACTOR, but only in a technical sense, but fails the far more important WP:BASIC criteria. However, I would like to see if someone comes up with anything else first. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: OK, it's been a while now, and no one has come up with anything. I'm going to formally vote "delete" – unless somebody comes up with something else, there is just not enough here to clearly pass WP:BASIC. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:17, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 17:35, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Notability (people), which says: "People are presumed if they have received significant coverage in  that are,  of each other, and .If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." Sources   The article notes: "Six years ago, Olivia Sanabia was in a movie theater watching “Ramona and Beezus” when she knew immediately what career path she would take. ... Olivia was only 6 years old. Now 12, the Corona actress has landed a leading role in the new Amazon series “Just Add Magic,” which will air its first full season Friday. ... Determined, Olivia honed her craft and auditioned for commercials, movies and television roles, undeterred if she didn’t land the job."   The article notes: "Multifaceted actress Olivia Sanabia stars as Kelly Quinn in Amazon's new original series JUST ADD MAGIC. The anticipated series premieres January 15, 2016. ... On the big screen, Olivia is set to star in Day Six and The Secret Life of Me both coming out in 2016. Notable credits include Life in Pieces, The Birthday Boys, Nickelodeon's Sam & Cat, and Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn."   The article notes: "Olivia Sanabia (Dorothy) is a 19 year-old, multi-hyphenate actress and singer. She is most well-known for her starring role as "Kelly Quinn" in Amazon's "Just Add Magic." She began acting at the age of 7 in musical theater and commercials. She then appeared on shows such as "This Is Us"," Sam & Cat," "Colin in Black & White," "Extant," and "Life in Pieces," among others. She recently starred in Disney Channel's "Coop and Cami Ask the World." Sanabia's love for singing, songwriting, and playing instruments is evident in her original music. Her recent singles include "Evergreen", "The Train", and "Stars Crossed". She can be seen in Netflix's upcoming spinoff "That 90's Show."" </li> <li> The article notes: "Olivia Sanabia knows what it's like to feel different—and that's what her newest original song, "The Train," is *all* about. "The song is kind of a personal journal entry, a peek inside my mind," the Coop & Cami Ask the World star shares with Girls' Life." </li> <li> The article notes: "After tons of commercials, guest-starring roles on Sam and Cat and Incredible Crew and a starring role on Just Add Magic, the ever-so-talented Olivia Sanabia is back! Tonight, she'll grace our screens on the series premiere of Coop & Cami Ask the World." </li> <li> The article notes: "Olivia Sanabia, known for her breakout role as Kelly Quinn in Amazon’s live-action series Just Add Magic, has signed with Stagecoach Entertainment for management. Sanabia starred on all three seasons of the hit Amazon series Just Add Magic, and also starred as Charlotte Wrather in Coop and Cami Ask The World, which aired for two seasons on Disney Channel." </li> <li> The article notes: "... Disney Channel star Olivia Sanabia, who plays the title role of Snow White, explains ... The 16-year-old “Coop & Cami Ask the World” actress admitted that she is also a little nervous about the open forum-style theater that dates back to 16th century Britain. ... Along with her acting credits that include Amazon’s “Just Add Magic,” Sanabia released her debut single “Stars Crossed,” last month, which she says was “deeply inspired by my love of ‘Romeo and Juliet’ — it’s an alternate take on the timeless classic.” Currently playing the dream role of her favorite princess, Snow White, her next bucket list role is to play Shakespeare’s famous female protagonist, Juliet Capulet." </li> <li> The article notes: "Corona-based actress Olivia Sanabia a will be reprising her role as spirited Kelly Quinn in the Amazon series “Just Add Magic,” based on the book by Cindy Callaghan. ... Sanabia, now 13, knew at a young age she wanted to become an actress. ... During a January interview, Shannon Sanabia recalled her daughter as a toddler grabbing a turkey baster and singing her heart out." </li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Olivia Sanabia to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Delete. The current sourcing is terrible, but it's potentially just a case of WP:TOOSOON. I would not oppose a draftify. Bearian (talk) 15:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete BLP, fails GNG and BIO. The above source eval shows there is not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. Sources are one or two sentence mentions, from interviews and promo, nothing with SIGCOV. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  04:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Bearian has not explained why the "current sourcing is terrible". Olivia Sanabia was profiled by The Press-Enterprise, a regional newspaper that is the primary newspaper for Riverside County, California, which has a population of two million people. The Press-Enterprise is a high quality reliable source. The Deadline article is 130 words long and is completely about her. Deadline is a high quality reliable source that covers the entertainment industry. The Press-Enterprise article and the Deadline article alone are sufficient for Olivia Sanabia to pass Notability.  Notability (people) says "multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". Once The Press-Enterprise article, the Deadline article, and the other sources listed in this AfD like Girls' Life and TheWrap are combined, there is clearly more than enough material for her to pass Notability (people).  Through her major roles in Just Add Magic and Coop & Cami Ask the World, WP:NACTOR says Olivia Sanabia is "likely to be notable" since she has had "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". The sources I found demonstrate that she is notable.  Cunard (talk) 05:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Your source eval clearly shows these are promos and brief mentions.  // Timothy :: talk  16:20, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


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