Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olympic Dreams (TV Series)


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 19:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Olympic Dreams (TV Series)

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I found nothing whatsoever on ProQuest, Newspapers.com, or GNews. Deprodded with rationale "sources found on gSearch", but I found only uploads of the show, directories such as IMDb, or false positives. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I've added a first source from the Independent (in article now) that should contribute to notability. It's tricky because it's a difficult search term. Hopefully the deprodder can point out a second. matt91486 (talk) 00:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cunard's additional sources below. matt91486 (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I deprodded this - but I've made a mistake. I found sources, but now realize they were for a different Olympic Dreams. I found sources for Olympic Dreams Featuring Jonas Brothers, which is likely notable. This article is about a very similarly titled British series from around 2007. I did not find sources for the British series. Jacona (talk) 02:04, 19 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete: No significant coverage in reliable sources. SL93 (talk) 23:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Change to Keep per Cunard below. SL93 (talk) 12:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "Having hope yourself is one thing. Being "a hope" for someone else is quite another, and Olympic Dreams effectively caught the queasy ambiguity of that condition, in its profile of three young hopes for the 2012 Olympics. "I feel that I probably could have been a champion at one time," said Tony Romaeo, a man whose time had now gone, and who as a result was pouring his undiminished ambition into his children." Cook, Yvonne. (2008-07-01). "The making of a teenage Olympian" (pages 1 and 2). The Independent. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2022-06-21. Retrieved 2022-06-21 – via Newspapers.com. The article notes: "This month Olympic Dreams, a four-part BBC TV series co-produced with The Open University, tries to find out by following young athletes as they strive to make it into the British Olympic team for London 2012. For more than a year the cameras have been tracking Olympic hopefuls as they go about their daily routine. They include 14-year-old diving prodigy Tom Daley; 19-year-old BMX girl racer Shanaze Reade; and 18-year-old Darius Knight, who has emerged from a South London housing estate to become a rising star of table tennis. ... The series shows the sacrifices they and their families have to make, and delves into their personal lives and emotions, with the help of a video diary camera which each athlete carries to record their thoughts and feelings at crucial moments. Some of the young hopefuls are aiming to compete in the Beijing Olympics, a crucial milestone on the road to 2012. "  The article provides 129 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "Five years to go before the 2012 London Olympics and already training is in full swing. All this week, Olympic Dreams follows hopefuls who are putting their lives on hold to qualify for a place on the British team. The men's rowing four destroy themselves on rowing machines at a high-altitude training camp in the Spanish mountains. Lee Pearson, the British paralympic dressage champion, discovers that his faithful old horse, Blue Circle Boy, is getting too long in the tooth to compete and his replacement is unpredictable. And teenage cyclist Ben Swift joins the British cycling team's training camp at the Manchester Velodrome."  The article notes: "It must be terrible being Tom Daley the teenage diver, mustn't it? Always "performing under the gaze of an ever hungry media", as the narrator of Olympic Dreams reminds us as we watch Tom perform under the gaze of the makers of Olympic Dreams. ... There's an interesting programme to be made from the contrasting social and economic circumstances of Britain's Olympic hopefuls. Olympic Dreams isn't quite it. It's not quite a programme about the psychology of sportsmen and women, though that's in there, it's not quite about the triumph over adversity of heptathlete Jessica Ennis, though that's in there too. As far as it goes, it's fine. It just doesn't go very far."  The article notes: "Maybe over the coming days we'll opt for one of those, but watching the last part of Olympic Dreams on Tuesday it was easier to conclude that the thing which really made the young athlete stand out was that just about every other member of his family is a bit of a chub. ... Daley's was the most positive of the three strands to this last episode, which highlighted the fact that there are some Olympic dreams which die long before the actual competition starts. In both the others, there was bitter disappointment for someone." <li> The article notes: "As his long-suffering but remarkably good-humoured mother recalled in this first of a new series of Olympic Dreams, the young Londoner has always had a short temper. ... The 20-year-old was the least well known of the four young athletes profiled in Olympic Dreams, now in its third year. Teenage diver Tom Daley and heptathlete Jessica Ennis, who both featured in previous series, are close to being household names by now, while sprinter Shaunna Thompson was a double gold medallist for England at the last Commonwealth Youth Games. ... The inclusion of people of the standing of Daley and Ennis may well be necessary for viewing figures, but McKenzie's story (granted, partly because of its unfamiliarity) was more fascinating."</li> <li>Less significant coverage:<ol> <li> The article provides 83 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "This year’s looming Olympics have been embroiled in controversy ever since they were awarded to Beijing in 2001. With weeks to go, this observational series profiles some of the athletes hoping to represent Great Britain. Tonight’s documentary follows Lee Pearson, Britain’s most successful Paralympic dressage rider, female BMX prodigy Shanaze Reade and rowers Annie Vernon and Elise Laverick as they battle against funding cuts, new training regimes and other athletes for GB selection and the chance to compete for their country in Beijing."</li> <li> The article provides 69 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes about Olympic Dreams: "The bits looking at two British teenaged table-tennis hopefuls are decent, but the chunks about the world of wheelchair ruby are just something else. The sport itself looks jarringly outlandish — all armoured wheelchairs and crunching collisions — but it's the human stories of the hopefuls battling for team places that hit home. The bit where the coaches tell one guy he hasn't made the cut is a shattering telly moment."</li> <li> The article provides 60 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes about Olympic Dreams: "The fly-one-the-wall series finishes by following the final preparations of three Beijing medal hopes, the coxless fours rowing team, diver Tom Daley and heptathlete Jessica Ennis. As always, it's a mix of triumph and disappointment — the joy on Bradley's face as he realises that he's going to the Olympics balanced against the shattering horror of Ennis who is ruled out."</li> <li> The article provides 79 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "The 2012 London Olympics may be far off, but many British athletes have already set their sights on a gold medal. This series, running daily this week, follows the fortunes of some of these rising stars. Today’s episode concentrates on Lee Pearson’s progress in Paralympic dressage, Ben Swift in cycling and the hopefuls for rowing’s coxless four. As their trainer Jürgen Grobler says, “Even the richest person in the world can’t buy a gold medal. He has to train.”"</li> <li> The article notes: "Specifically, the broadcaster is showing 26 Olympic stories in its series World Olympic Dreams to whet the appetite for the growing numbers of fans already clamouring for Olympic content."</li> <li> The article provides 75 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "This diverting diary-style documentary, co-produced with the Open University, gets intimate access to some of our Olympic hopefuls on the long road to London 2012. Elite sports stars including teenage prodigy diver Tom Daley and likeable heptathlete Jessica Ennis reveal their gruelling training regimes, daily sacrifices and injury problems. All the athletes here are determined to secure a place on Team GB, then ultimately win gold in front of their home crowd. No pressure, then."</li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Olympic Dreams to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 09:52, 21 June 2022 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep per sources found by Cunard. Donald D23   talk to me  11:51, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


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