Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omar Williams (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. One vote to keep seems uncertain, and suggests he might be notable if more searching was done. One seems to have looked only at the number of sources and not what they are or the depth of coverage, and the other two are bald assertions of notability without any substantive comment or evidence. As this is not a vote those two were discounted entirely. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Omar Williams
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No reliable third party sources that discuss this person in detail. Plenty of references but none are reliable and of the standard that would make this person meet WP:BIO. X sprainpraxisL (talk) 00:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- -- Cirt (talk) 01:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete "By the early 1990s I had moved into London" – uh, I? Also, its main contributor is the likely SPA User:Jojoclub. Raymie (t • c) 04:55, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps the SPA is cut and pasting content from elsewhere in copyvio, and simply did not catch the change of POV. And what's with the name "Jonny Alexander" used in the article?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)



 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and fix Article is full of removable hyperbole and fluff (please, no pun intended). NYT's InBaseline confirms that as "mainstream" actor "Omar Hibbert Williams" he has a descriptive role in The Fifth Element. His other three mainstream roles as listed at IMDB are even more minor, so his mainstream appearances do not meet those criteria as set in WP:PORNBIO. BUT... the IAFD lists a number of adult film AKAs: Roberto, Sidney Street, Big Willy, Omar Marcovich, Big Omar, Omar, Sydney Street... listing 114 adult titles as performer and 45 as director.  AVN has profiles for him under Omar Williams, Big Omar Williams, and "Big Omar" Williams.  According to AVN, he was a British 2008 ETO Award nominee,  and may have been a 2003 AVN 'foreign performers of the year' nominee.  Seems prolific.  His name is mentioned in an article in The Guardian and another mention is in Digital Spy.  A bio at StarNow claims "several awards including Best Male Actor, Best Video and Best Scene."  A July 2010 article shared on xPeeps and Circus attributed to Tom Bristow of The Crosby Herald, explains how Williams was instrumental in restoring a local landmark, also makes reference to these awards.  Anyone want to dig futher into Eurpopean porn sources to see who awarded them, and to see if other nominations exist as either an actor or a director to have him meet PORNBIO?   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:11, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 *  Keep  Enough notable (sources + references)Rirunmot (talk) 11:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 *  Keep . Meets GNG.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - Per references and as epeefleche says it meets GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliable sources. No reliable sources whatsoever. None. Most of the cited sources are advertising copy, including the subject's own online promotional resume, and while he claims to have won a fistful of awards, neither he nor anyone else seems to be able to say what they are. Fails the GNG as well; news coverage is almost exclusively trivial, aside from a very local newspaper which headlines stories like "Bicycle stolen two weeks ago" and "Hey musicians!! Sign up for our free open mic listings". Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 04:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No significant reliable coverage, and no reliable sources for his award nominations or mainstream appearances. Epbr123 (talk) 13:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


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