Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Once Upon a Time in Bolivia (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Mr.Z-man 17:49, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Once Upon a Time in Bolivia
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Previous discussion was closed as "no consensus" although there were no "keep" votes. The previous discussion showed a lack of any significant awards and the only one added since then was a local "Golden Egg" award which appears to be based on online voting since the website says "click here to vote". The article seems to have been created by the film's director/producer/writer/cast member Patrick Cordova. I don't see evidence of significant coverage or of winning any major awards.Mdtemp (talk) 15:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete The No Consensus despite the lack of Keep votes the last time around surprised me although there was no strong support for delete either. The arguments given in the first nomination are still valid - there were no arguments for Keep.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep There are a couple of references that seem to be valid secondary sources. Borock (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bolivia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:19, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:19, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Always difficult to search for the English title of a non-English film. That said:


 * Keep per just meeting WP:NF. I note that sources are available, even if not being used as citations. No need to WP:KEEPLISTING something per WP:NOEFFORT. And while not as earth-stopping as an Academy Award, winning Best International Feature at London Independent Film Festival is not exactly minor.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 19:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Does winning an award in a category where there were just 2 entries really show notability? Apparently the category was discontinued in 2014.  I understand this is a competition only for micro-budget films and it doesn't seem very notable to me.  I'm not a film expert, but I'll admit to being unimpressed by the film equivalent of an autobiography and I don't see that it meets any of the notability criteria.  For the record, I commented but didn't vote at the first AfD discussion. Papaursa (talk) 04:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A pity you did not look further in that earlier AFD, as you might have !voted a keep back then under WP:NRVE. As for notability, coverage for winning that award shows it... and one of the reasons my own WP:BEFORE looked beyond English. La Prensa,Correo del Sur, Los Tiempos, Bolivia, et al. None being press releases, WP:NF is met. Thank you.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 08:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - would like to check with User:Lugnuts on this, but looks notable in the context of Bolivian film.
 * Machicado, Giannina. "Filme boliviano gana premio en Londres". La Prensa. Retrieved 2 April 2014.
 * Salazar, Francisco. "'Once Upon a Time in Bolivia' Hailed as Best Movie From Bolivia in the Last Decade". Latino Post. Retrieved 2 April 2014.
 * "Película boliviana gana en festival inglés". Los Tiempos. Retrieved 2 April 2014.
 * "London Independent Film Festival". Retrieved 11 January 2014.
 * "Filme boliviano triunfa en festival de Londres". El Sol (Santa Cruz). Retrieved 2 April 2014.
 * Jolynn Carpenter. "Golden Egg Film Festival Announces Winners of the 2014 New York City Branch | PRLog". prlog.org. Retrieved 28 June 2014.
 * And these seem sufficient references In ictu oculi (talk) 04:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would point out that some of these are press releases or just lists of awards. In addition, the original source for "best movie from Bolivia in a decade" appears to the the movie's own poster. Papaursa (talk) 05:11, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep winning the top award at the London Independent Film Festival and the WP:GNG from the Latino Post should be enough to keep this.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 07:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would have thought the top award was the "Grand Prize", not winning an award in a category with so few entries it was discontinued the next year. As I said, films are not my area of expertise. Papaursa (talk) 03:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You may stop returning to the award. The point here is that the film has the required coverage to meet WP:NF. The award may have brought some, but it is not the key issue.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 05:32, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable, qualifies underWP:N.Chandana Jayasinghe(Sri Lanka) (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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