Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One hitter (smoking)


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The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

One hitter (smoking)

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 * Comment This is far from being a dictionary definition; it gives a photo and examples of its use, rather than simply defining the term. Notability is a different question — which I won't answer, as I'm not sure.  Nyttend (talk) 17:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete (as nom). Dictionary definition without notability, encyclopedic context, or potential for expansion into a bona fide article. Mjpresson (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: can't delete as a dictionary definition: there's certainly room for expansion (history, methods of making, etc.) not appropriate for a dictionary. Is it notable?  Not sure.  I've found a lot of passing references (news articles, etc.) but no good reliable source about what it is itself.  However, I've found one article that cites our article, indicating that our article is probably actually useful (as opposed to all of our Japanese train station pages... I know, I know, being a well written, factual, useful article isn't enough to get into Wikipedia).  There's also this interesting, though probably not sufficient reference on Fox News in reference to the United Airlines Flight 663 incident (evidently the diplomat was smoking a one-hitter).  I suspect that extensive coverage in a reliable source exists, but until it's found, I won't !vote yet. Buddy431 (talk) 02:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. You couldn't make this up. No sooner has beloved Fox News made sure the world knows about a WP article explaining what a one-hitter is, than some editor wants to do away with the selfsame article.  To get a view of the mindset of that pro-deletion editor, see the edit history and talk page of the article.  Content ready to add (once assured it will not be curtly reverted) includes mention and pictures of chillum (of which some are one-hitters), kiseru (Japan), midwakh (middle east), and sebsi (Morocco).  Chillum and sebsi are reportedly used mostly with cannabis, kiseru and midwakh mostly with tobacco.  "But if it looks like a one-hitter, it is a one-hitter."
 * Special differences from just any "pipe" include: (a) that by sucking slowly users can vaporize, rather than burn, most of the sifted herb, obtaining more nutrient versus carbon monoxide, and (b) that "side-stream smoke" can be more easily avoided. A crater screen permits using sifted herb for better vaporization; a long flexible drawtube cools vapors before inhalation.  (The Qatar diplomat arrested on a plane with a "one-hitter" was conjectured by one correspondent to have been using a midwakh; conceivably he wanted to avoid side-stream smoke.  He was caught anyway, "It's the law.")Tokerdesigner (talk) 21:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep. Mark as a stub. Valid topic, not a dictionary definition. Carrite (talk) 03:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not dictionary – discusses design, use, regional variation, potentially relevant to events (incident). —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.