Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ong's Hat, New Jersey


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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I suspect this is a hoax; q.v. Ong's Hat, isn't listed by the BGN. Qu e ntin Smith 11:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Not too sure it is a hoax. this seems to suggest it was a real place.The article needs some work but it seems to be less than a hoax. JodyBtalk 12:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This demands investigation! This book made me think there's something real (and real bizarre) here. I've added one book reference and am seeing a lot more. Give me a few days and this will be a Good Article perhaps. It's a ghost town tangled up in a faux non-fictional book, making this wonderfully confusing, but I do think it's notable. It's been covered in many books apparently, as has the legend surrounding it. this apparently factual book has an entire chapter on the town. --Chiliad22 (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)*
 * Hold until it is established that this is a real place. If it is, then keep, as places are notable. Sean MD80 talk 19:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Much of the sources are just about how it's indeterminable whether this was a real place or a name on a map that didn't correspond to anything but a hut. Nevertheless, the existence of so many sources I think shows it's notable as a legend/piece of folklore. --Chiliad22 (talk) 19:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. The Wikipedia article is now quite possibly the best single source anywhere on this weird little place. In a nutshell, it was a hut that got put on maps as Ong's Hat. Elaborate legends circulated about this place's fictional history, a writer believed them and printed the claims as history, then he recanted years later but people kept repeating his earlier claims. Then it gets confusing but but basically people on a BBS made up a new fictional history of Ong's Hat (see the article Ong's Hat) which eventually was published as a book. Before and after that book, Ong's Hat appeared frequently in tourism books about NJ as well as books and articles about strange place names. It wasn't an officially recognized place, but I think it was notable as a persistent bit of folklore. --Chiliad22 (talk) 20:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable folklore, per Chiliad22. DGG (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable folklore, well sourced. Edward321 (talk) 00:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Contains solid sources like NY Times. The settlement is notable to New Jersey folklore rather than being a notable settlement only as such. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 08:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep well sourced article about notable folklore. Kudos to Chiliad22 for the work on this article. Thryduulf (talk) 09:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable folklore (and a ghost town to some extent because of the one hut), well-documented and well sourced. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.