Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Onome Sodje (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. As far as I can tell, there is no consensus as to whether or not the individual is sufficiently notable for inclusion. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Onome Sodje
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Procedural nomination. I know very little about football hierarchy and have no opinion. This was previously deleted as apparently failing to play at a high enough professional level, but through Articles for deletion/Tom Bryant, not the first nomination under the player's name. Upon recreation, it was claimed on my talk page that this doesn't meet G4 as he now plays for a higher level association.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. --Jimbo[online] 10:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - the sources don't quite meet WP:GNG (they only discuss his transfers from one club to the other really, and aren't that substantial) and as he has yet to feature in a fully-professional level, he also fails WP:ATHLETE. Recreate when either of these guidelines are met in the future. GiantSnowman 10:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - played in the Conference National which is a notable league, and his sources confer notability (progress throughout his career) Eldumpo (talk) 20:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Whilst I agree with that comment, unfortunately the presence of Histon means that the BSP isn't considered a professional league (despite them making the play-offs and beating Leeds in the FA Cup) - see WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. :( However, if he plays for Barnsley on Saturday, then this debate will be rendered irrelevant, as he'd pass Wp:ATHLETE. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  22:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There's at least six clubs in the Conference National which aren't professional, not just Histon...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Coverage in respected sources such as the BBC; belongs to the squad of Barnsley FC, and thus passes WP:ATHLETE ("People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport"). In my opinion he does not have to play a game for Barnsley to pass this - belonging to the squad is enough. Offliner (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So what if a sixteen-year-old kid is a member of the squad; is he then notable enough for an article? GiantSnowman 12:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * .....or a player who was on a pro team's squad 20 years ago, never played, then dropped out of pro football and is now a taxi driver? The father of TV presenter Les Dennis was once on the books of Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the land, but left the club without ever playing and wound up working in a betting shop, would you say he passes WP:ATHLETE? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * My opinion is that being a member of the senior squad of a professional team makes a player notable. Offliner (talk) 12:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if the player never played so much as a single second of competitive football for that club in his career....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Offliner (talk) 13:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * At a time when many editors are complaining that we are too lenient in allowing an article on any player who's ever played for a pro club, I doubt you'd find many other people who think we should also have articles on all the players who've not played for a pro club......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Merely being on the roster doesn't make one notable Spiderone (talk) 12:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep His position at Barnsley is irrelevent, he passes the criteria on his appearences for York alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSmileyMan (talk • contribs) 15:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * How? - he has never played in a fully-pro league with York! GiantSnowman 15:41, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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