Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opal Carew (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:50, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Opal Carew
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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly sourced as clearing any notability criteria in WP:AUTHOR. As written, this consists of just one sentence stating that she exists, and then offers no further context for her potential notability (such as noteworthy awards, sourceable biographical background or evidence of noteworthy literary criticism) before jumping straight to a list of her books, and the only source is a deadlinked directory of her own bylined writing about other things on the website of a defunct publication she was affiliated with as a contributor. But the notability test for a writer does not hinge on showing that she's been the author of content about other things, it hinges on showing that she's been the subject of content written by other people. But even on Google and ProQuest searches, literally the most substantive source I can find is a single 100-word review blurb about one of her books, which is not enough coverage to get her over WP:GNG all by itself as the only reliable source in play — and all I can find otherwise is online bookstores and glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of other writers, not reliable source content that is substantively about her or her work. Note also that this version is making even less of a notability claim, and sourcing it even worse, than the version that got deleted in 2008 — and if a person couldn't clear the absurdly loose notability standards of 2008, then a worse version of the article can hardly be acceptable under the tighter and stricter standards of 2019 — so literally the only reason I'm not speedying it outright is that the recreated version has existed in this form for seven years and was probably created in good faith by somebody who didn't even know about the earlier discussion. Bearcat (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep I found two long biographical articles about her in Canadian papers written several years apart. She also has reviews in Kirkus, Publishers Weekly and Quill & Quire. I added everything to the article except the Quill & Quire which I don't have full access to. The review in Quill is for Forbidden Heat it's in Volume 76, January/February 2010 if anyone has access to that journal. There's enough coverage of her in addition to her reviews for her to be considered notable. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:15, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I have found and added more coverage, from 1997 (before her first book was published), and February 2013. There is significant coverage over many years, much of it in the Ottawa Citizen, but also in the National Post in 2010. With the reviews, she meets notability guidelines. RebeccaGreen (talk) 23:08, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


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