Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opening and closing sequences of The Prisoner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. I personally am not sure I agree, but the consensus was that the article was sufficiently substantial & sufficiently well sourced to be kept. DGG (talk) 08:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Opening and closing sequences of The Prisoner

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As much as I like fiction articles, this one has no establishment of notability, and doesn't seem worthy of a separate article. I'd be okay with a merge, but I still think keeping this is entirely silly, and heck, I lean inclusionist on stuff like this. Wizardman 03:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not really an encyclopedia article in that it just describes the sequences, doesn't tell us anything about why they are important, who cares about them, etc. Northwestgnome (talk) 05:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Prisoner: no evidence that the opening and closing sequences are independently notable enough to have an article of their own, but this is valuable information in the context of the parent article. Baileypalblue (talk) 05:33, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See below. Baileypalblue (talk) 15:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge per BaileypalBlue. If kept it really needs a cite for their iconic status, which shouldn't be too hard. Artw (talk) 06:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - good work there! Artw (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge (assuming it can be referenced). Even if iconic, opening and closing sequences are rarely a topic that's discussed widely enough to support an entire article. (I know of only one that could make the grade here) - Mgm|(talk) 10:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Prisoner. The subject does not possess the cultural notability to warrant a standalone article. Pastor Theo (talk) 10:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. The opening sequence, at least, of the Prisoner is notable and has generated much discussion. See, e.g.    Sardar Postmodernism and the Other ISBN 0745307493 (pp 1 - 2) etc. JulesH (talk) 10:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My natural inclination is to merge articles like these into their parents, but JulesH has provided evidence of enough critical attention specifically to the opening sequence that it's potentially viable as a stand-alone article candidate. Therefore, the choice between keep and merge is a matter of editorial discretion better suited for the article talk pages, and this AfD should not preclude a decision to keep the article separate via a merge finding.  Thus, I change my vote to keep.  Baileypalblue (talk) 15:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.126.123 (talk) 11:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.126.123 (talk) 11:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or at the very least simply merge it back into the parent article; deletion would not serve the encyclopedia. The references included seem to clearly articulate The Prisoner 's notability--whether this specific aspect of the show is notable is a matter for debate, but I tend to think, given its age and international influence, that it is.  I've flagged this for rescue, because I don't have time myself to find and add sources on it. Jclemens (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Prisoner. If trimmed and copyedited appropriately, there would be not much left for a stand-alone article. (For reference, see Carnivàle, where the opening titles won an Emmy, and the article is an FA.) – sgeureka t•c 18:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Prisoner. Per above. --Sloane (talk) 20:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The prison has obvious notability.  The article seems to have enough meat to justify existing on its own.  I can't see any benefit to the encyclopedia from deletion.  jbolden1517Talk  05:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep" A well-written article... As stated and verified, the opening (and closing) scenes of The Prisoner have a notariety in and of themselves. They were not typical, they were newsworthy beyond a certain fandom, and they were groundbreaking in that they brought an esoteric quality to Prime Time TV when they were broadcast. Rather than merge, they deserve to exist as a stand-alone entity at Wikipedia....Help edit the article to better inform our customer...--Buster7 (talk) 11:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per JulesH. Wouldn't necessarily preclude an eventual merge discussion within that forum, but for now keeping seems appropriate. Rlendog (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. The series seems to have made quite an impression on people, and was quite popular in its time.   D r e a m Focus  12:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep but remove peacock terms.  Well-referenced and notable. Jwray (talk) 05:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.