Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operation Naf Rakkha


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The result was speedy delete. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Operation Naf Rakkha

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This may be a hoax. I came across it while page curating and started trying to clean it up, and while I was working through it, I began noticing that things didn't quite add up, and that I couldn't find anything about this specific battle. I couldn't even find much about Alm Fazur Rahman which didn't seem to make sense. Then I realised that much of the article is based (basically copy and pasted, so copyright violation) on a forum post from June 14 2015 here - which trumpets how it was written by "our WAR HERO - "Alm Fazlur Rahman"" and at the end of the post, someone else asks "Is it authentic? No mention of this in any other places." As soon as I saw that rather enormous red flag, bearing in mind that I couldn't up to then confirm that Operation Naf Rakkha was even a thing, I stopped trying to copy-edit and fix the article, saved my changes, and am bringing it to AFD for discussion. If it can be shown that this was an actual incident, then I am open to withdrawing my nom, but it looks/smells very fishy. Mabalu (talk) 11:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment:- I wondered if it was real when first I edited it, but the BBC report seems genuine. Whether it is notable enough for an article, is another matter. - Arjayay (talk) 12:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The BBC report doesn't actually describe a battle/military operation, just that an alleged trigger for this operation did occur, but nothing about any resulting conflicts. I couldn't actually confirm the rest of the article. Mabalu (talk) 13:33, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed - there was "an incident", so the entire article is not a hoax, but the scale of the incident appears minor - Arjayay (talk) 13:49, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - - Like everyone else, I have failed to find anything other than the BBC article - Arjayay (talk) 08:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete I can't find sources for this incident in English, though of course it's probable most would be in other languages. The BBC report seems to be about a different incident, as it only refers to shots being fired. I think that if hundreds of people had been killed as the article claims, the BBC might have mentioned this. Like the nom I may be persuaded to change my mind, if anyone turns up non-English reliable sources. Neiltonks (talk) 13:22, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Myanmar-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - I can't find any mention of the incident. Page 340 of Cheesman, Nick, and Nicholas Farrelly, eds. Conflict in Myanmar: War, Politics, Religion. ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, 2016. (https://muse.jhu.edu/chapter/1853344) gives, "Table 16.1. Major conflicts along the Myanmar–Bangladesh border (1978–2014)" listing 8 conflicts, none of which resulted in more than 48 violent deaths (one saw 3 Bangladesh soldiers killed in 1991, another saw 48 dead in riots in 2014, and one saw one dead Bangladeshi border patrol corporal in 2014. The rest result in population displacement or political meetings. No mention of any event between 1992 and 2008. Smmurphy(Talk) 15:53, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, even if not a hoax, not notable for stand alone article. Kierzek (talk) 16:30, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This appears to be some Bangladeshi or Pakistani nationalist's fantasy. Nick-D (talk) 22:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Casualties: Bangladesh - 0 killed; Myanmar - 600 killed? This has hoax written all over it.-- Jim in Georgia  Contribs  Talk  02:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Looks like a hoax to me. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Whether or not it's a hoax doesn't even matter, it's a clear cut copyright violation and on that grounds alone it should have been speedy deleted. MaxBrowne (talk) 04:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - On the other hand, we have confirmed that it's definitely a hoax, so it's useful to have this AfD too.... Mabalu (talk) 11:04, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


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