Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orégonomy


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The result was   Delete as apparent hoax. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Orégonomy

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Despite a list of book titles being included, I can find no evidence this language actually exists or is even covered by these sources, making it unverifiable. For one, it's unlikely that a language from before settlers arrived there, would be named after a state that basically didn't exist yet. Also, the cipher thing is suspicious. Also, I've done a search on the Uni library system. No research has been done on the language at all. Mgm|(talk) 13:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with notion that a Native American language would likely not be given a name that was ascribed to the region by European settlers in the 18th century. Oregon (toponym) states that although the exact origin of the name "Oregon" is disputed, almost all point to an English, French, or Spanish origin; of these theories, the earliest suggests an early 18th-century origin. The one theory mentioned in that article that points to a possible Native American origin of "Oregon" is not tied to the Chinook and also does not suggest that the stress would be placed on the second syllable as article title implies. Sounds like a play on the refuted theory that "Oregon" is derived from oregano. In addition to WP:V mentioned by nom, I suspect WP:HOAX as well and have added the hoax template to the article. KuyaBriBri Talk 16:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete -  Cuñado  ☼ -  Talk  19:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. The reference books provided actually do exist. I found all of the titles via Google search. Two of them are available on the internet as full-text versions and neither the word Orégonomy, nor anything similar, was found in either reference.
 * Winthrop, Theodore, Canoe and the Saddle can be found at the Library of Congress website here.
 * Drury, Clifford Merrill, On To Oregon is located at Google Books here.
 * There a couple of other problems with this article which show that it is untrue:
 * To the best of my knowledge, the Chinooks did not have a written language. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
 * Of the so-called examples cited, three of the five words are English words. The article claims that Orégonomy is "ancient writing". The Chinook could not have had ciphers for English words in "ancient writing."
 * •••Life of Riley (T–C) 20:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as a hoax, per the cogent arguments given above. Things like "Oregonians have formed a parity of the code" don't make any sense, esp. not given that this language supposedly happened before there was an English language presence there to encode. Drmies (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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