Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ordre Reaux Croix


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The result was   no consensus. Black Kite 00:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Ordre Reaux Croix

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I have removed the hangon tag because A7 does not apply. However, I have been unable to find any significant coverage in reliable sources about Ordre Reaux Croix. A Google News Archive search returns no relevant results, and a Google Books returns an irrelevant passing mention. This topic fails WP:N. Cunard (talk) 05:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Martinism. M0RD00R (talk) 06:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless information can be merged, I don't see the value of having a redirect for this target. A redirect should guide readers to more information about the topic. If this topic were to be redirected to Martinism, readers would expect that article to discuss Ordre Reaux Croix. I cannot see how this information can be merged because there are no reliable sources that can verify information about this topic. This page should be deleted. Cunard (talk) 06:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

-The lack of ghits i believe is natural, seeing that the O.R.C. is a 'secret society' and probably have an interest in keeping out of the public eye. In regards to the few references in gbooks, it might be because some of the sources I have recently listed, is not on gbooks as of yet, and also because I belive that the organisation at one point went under a different name (unverifiable at the moment). Nevertheless, I claim that having the ORC as an article on wikipedia would be one of the few ways to raise awareness to its existence, and in turn enable critical reviews of it. Cheers --Ohjay (talk) 16:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I have now tried to give new reliable sources, as well as expanding the previous ones, in an attempt to better prove the notability of the ORC.
 * Can you provide quotes from the books that you are citing in the article? If these quotes are in a non-English language, please translate them. This will help establish notability. Remember, these sources must provide nontrivial (at least several paragraphs) coverage of Ordre Reaux Croix. Passing mentions (one or two sentences long) or sources from Ordre Reaux Croix's website do not help establish notability. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  22:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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