Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organization for the Communist Party of the Proletariat of Italy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  07:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Organization for the Communist Party of the Proletariat of Italy

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This is an unknown communist party/group absent from the sources. Even the period of foundation is practically unknown. It doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG Scia Della Cometa (talk) 08:53, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics,  and Italy.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:56, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. There is plenty of sources and more than 400 Google Hits on this party, that deserves an article in Wikipedia. --Checco (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Rather than using Google hits as the only reason for keeping the page (and indeed it is not a valid motivation for keeping the page) why don't you try to explain why this party has encyclopedic relevance?--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 19:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Checco, did you at least open the links returned by Google? This is what I obtained:
 * 1) Page doesn't exist
 * 2) Page doesn't exist
 * 3) A link to Marche's archives, containing 59 various magazines; few of them are "La nostra lotta", published by "Comitato Centrale per l'organizzazione per il partito comunista del proletariato d'Italia" (is it the same thing as the subject of this article?)
 * 4) This very Wikipedia article
 * 5) The italian Wikipedia article Conferenza Internazionale dei Partiti e delle Organizzazioni Marxisti-Leninisti (Unità e Lotta), saying that the subject was a former member of it (unsourced, since this organization's website doesn't report the subject at all).
 * 6) The content of a bin (probably an artwork installed in Venice). One anti-secessionist leaflet of the subject was found in its content.
 * 7) A 2008 post in forumcommunity.net (not a valid source for Wikipedia, I'm not even allowed to publish the link...), listing the communist parties in Italy
 * 8) A bookseller website, selling some reviews "La nostra lotta" (same as point 3 above)
 * 9) How to pronounce the subject's name...
 * 10) A mirror image of english Wikipedia's article Ubaldo Buttafava.
 * 11) A passing reference in a self-published newsletter.
 * I'm stopping here, but I think that none of the "Google hits" is a valid secondary source required for establishing the notability of this subject. P1221 (talk) 09:33, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: The state of sourcing within articles on English Wikipedia is not correlated with notability or lack thereof. See WP:NEXIST for more information. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as there is no reason given to why this was relevant. The article is completely unsourced. Yakme (talk) 09:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - no sources, very vague style ("..was a Hoxhaist Communist party in Italy founded sometime around the 1970s–1994", "...became defunct somewhere around 2002"; you cannot even tell when it was founded and disbanded???) P1221 (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - this organization was the official Italian franchise linked with Albania, and the work of the organization must have been amply covered in contemporary Albanian press (like Zëri i Popullit, Radio Tirana, etc.), but none of this appears to be available online. --Soman (talk) 20:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't question it, unfortunately without sources it is difficult to verify the relevance of a party. Sources online would be preferable, but punctual paper sources would also be ok. However, with no sources available, the party's notability is not verifiable.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


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