Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organization of emergency medical assistance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   judicious merge to Emergency medical services. Fabrictramp |  talk to me  20:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Organization of emergency medical assistance

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Delete Article does not meet Wikis WP:N or WP:V as this article has no cites/references, there is no way for one to added ref/cites due to this whole article being of personal opinion Medicellis (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * note also can be merged into Emergency medical services in a small cat. but needs alot of help even for that Medicellis (talk) 16:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  15:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Perhaps some part of it can be merged. However, most of it seems to be unreferenced OR combined with links to other existing articles, with some uneven statements about history and the practices of a few foreign countries. Further, the material is only loosely linked to the title "Organization of emergency medical assistance" &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 16:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge what is useful: things like scoop and run vs stay and play are definitely notable and verifiable, but they belong in the EMS article. How much work would be involved is irrelevant in an AfD debate. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment I would disagree that "scoop and run" and "stay and play" are WP:V or even WP:N. The only place I have ever heard these mentioned are as "teaching tools" from EMS educators.  And loose ref. are made in course such ITLS (Internatonal Trauma Life Support) and PreHospital Trauma Life Support (PHTLS).  But YOU WOULD be hard pressed (if not pretty impossible) to get verifiable sources were this is included in EMT curriculum. I'm may say to my partner hey this is a "load and go" or "we are gonna treat this with diesel"  But this is no way a widely used figure of speech or even notable. Medicellis (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Clearly this is a notable controversy for which references exist. I have several medical textbooks mentioning it, and you'll find it in many scientific articles as well (see Google Scholar). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good, I had not seen many of those articles, and makes for interesting reading. But as it stands, this page would be much better merged into the already well written Emergency medical service. Medicellis (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep information. The information under "Organization in different countries" is clearly both notable and verifiable (although unsourced at the moment).  Whether it's kept in its present form or merged or turned into a list, or split into many individual articles for each country is of no importance to me.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * comment Not much of the information in this article needs to be merged, mabe the "scoop and run" and "stay and play" aspects. But most of the information is present in other articles, Paramedics in Germany, Paramedics in Canada, and as you can see the page Paramedic has a section on different countries.  As you can see this page is very redundent in 90% of it's information, as well as being present else were in wiki. Medicellis (talk) 11:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. In present form not suitable for inclusion. Much content is already present elsewhere. JFW | T@lk  05:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - redundant to Category:Emergency medical services by country. Although Articles and Cats can co-exist, this particular one does not implement it well. Furthermore; I do not feel that continued editing of this document will result in an acceptable version, unfortunately. Either Delete (without prejudice) or a complete re-write is required. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  13:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge any verifiable content to the EMS article. -- Whpq (talk) 14:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge where appropriate. Phasmatisnox (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.