Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orgasmatron


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The result was redirect to Sleeper (1973 film). People who feel like it can merge stuff from history.  Sandstein  08:22, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Orgasmatron

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Here's a 'fun' topic to discuss. Problems are the usual ones: list of appearances in fictional media (quite a few, given the usual har-har associated with this; this also makes search for sources painful; there have even been several books and dozen+ articles that use this term in their title, etc.). But all it means this likely fails WP:GNG. No source I see discusses it in depth, the extent of analysis is that this term has been coined by Woody Allen's movie Sleeper (and Allen was mocking Wilhelm Reich's ideas), and then a sentence about in-universe plot (device that allows to trigger orgasms, har har) and then was used in few other works. The point to bear in mind that while the joke of Orgasmatron is used to ridicule some things, said joke itself has not been subject to any in-depth analysis, and so the article is simply unable to develop beyond a two-liner definition and then a list of works using this term. Is this enough to warrant an encyclopedic article? I think that this should be simply a paragraph at best in the Sleeper movie (but there is nothing to merge there from the current article). PS. As far as I can tell, this term does not have its own entry in any encyclopedia of sf terms or such, neither. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:04, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Thinking keep, cleanup, rename maybe. Hyperbolick (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:29, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. ミラP 04:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Lean delete - Honestly this feels a bit like WP:SYNTH material to me. It doesn't seem as if any reliable sources actually link the 'orgasmatron' from the original film to any of the vaguely similar devices in other media/pop culture. Unless a reliable source talks about them together, it doesn't make sense for us in Wikivoice to state or imply that they are related. Michepman (talk) 04:49, 7 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Selective merge to Sleeper (1973 film). Take the In Sleeper (1973) section, and distill it down to a few sentences.  The Slate, Guardian, and LA Times references already in the article are surely sufficient to support this brief mention.  -- RoySmith (talk) 19:48, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * PS, as mentions below, moving Orgasmatron (disambiguation) to Orgasmatron make sense.  -- RoySmith (talk) 17:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Selective merge to Sleeper (1973 film) per WP:SYNTH and RoySmith. Orgasmatron (disambiguation) can/should then be moved the the undabbed name. – sgeureka t•c 08:33, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


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