Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orlow Smith


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  14:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Orlow Smith

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I don't believe that as a Civil War Brevet General, Smith satisfies WP:NMILITARY, but I may be misreading that. Please assess. Sources certainly are very much on the meagre side, so we would need notability via rank or achievement to make a case for an article. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete brevet Brigadier General doesn't satisfy #2 of WP:SOLDIER. In any event the criteria of WP:SOLDIER are just presumptions of notability and I don't see that he satisfies WP:GNG due to the absence of WP:SIGCOV. Mztourist (talk) 07:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Provisional Keep. Brevet brigadier general most certainly satisfies WP:SOLDIER. Still a general officer. But only as long as he actually served as a general officer and the rank wasn't entirely honorary. We need more information. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Our article Brevet (military) would suggest it was honorary only: Brevet rank in the Union Army, whether in the Regular Army or the United States Volunteers, during and at the conclusion of the American Civil War, may be regarded as an honorary title which conferred none of the authority, precedence, nor pay of real or full rank. The vast majority of the Union Army brevet ranks were awarded posthumously or on or as of March 13, 1865, as the war was coming to a close. (that is the date of Smith's appointment, too). - But hard to tell in this specific case, unless it's in the print source. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I can see no indication that the subject is notable, nor can I find significant independent coverage of the subject in WP:RS. buidhe 00:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


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