Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orosháza FC


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The result was keep. Seems sufficient coverage for GNG, particularly with the book noted below. Fenix down (talk) 07:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Orosháza FC

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Maybe all the "good stuff" is in Hungarian, which I cannot read, but I cannot find anything on this club other than the generic stats pages that exist about every footy team out there. Since its creation in 2011 it's been nothing but a listing of the players. A PROD was declined citing WP:FOOTYN, but even that guideline says that the team has to meet GNG. I don't see it here, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. Primefac (talk) 22:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep They played in the Hungarian second division for a several years, needs to be improved, not deleted. I've started by adding prose back to the article, though it still needs a lot more work. I don't think there's anything at all in English, and search engines weight stats pages before news pages for Eastern European/Balkan teams especially. This is the first news site I found, no idea on RS or the language as a whole, but they've certainly been covered by someone SportingFlyer  T · C  00:26, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It's in Hungarian, and it's just match recaps. Coverage yes, significant no. Primefac (talk) 02:39, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There's over 300 articles listed in that link dating back to 2009, and not all of them are match recaps. If this were a player I'd be inclined to agree with you, but it's damn clear this club gets coverage in the Hungarian press just based off the first actual news link I found. The language is irrelevant, it just makes it harder to find the articles which will count toward WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  03:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not debating there's coverage. I'm saying that the existing coverage is routine/MILL-type coverage that does not demonstrate notability. Primefac (talk) 12:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I manifestly disagree with you. Almost all Hungarian second division teams have articles. All Hungarian second division teams who have played in the division since 2010 have articles. The league is properly covered in Hungary. Not helping things is the fact the club dissolved in 2015. SportingFlyer  T · C  13:22, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. A difficult one because I know little about the Hungarian league structure but I think this club does meet WP:FOOTYN and, given that they have played at second tier level, must have had significant coverage in the Hungarian media to meet WP:GNG also . No Great Shaker (talk) 06:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Change of opinion after I realised the club is dissolved. I looked for evidence of them taking part in the Magyar Kupa (Hungary's national cup competition), which would satisfy FOOTYN, but cannot find any. Sorry, but this looks like a delete after all. No Great Shaker (talk) 18:47, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * FOOTYN says that non-first-tier teams should meet GNG. As to your second point, if THEREMUSTBESOURCES where are they? Primefac (talk) 12:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The club's dissolution has no bearing on its notability. They played several years in the Hungarian cup including 2005. Covered in local papers and local TV  (I know Youtube's not reliable, but the source is local news) and the 300+ beol.hu stories above are national coverage, including discussion of the club in a national rag here (they aren't just match reports.) Difficult to search for due to the language issues. Definitely notable. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete no non-trivial sources just WP:ROUTINE- subject does not meet WP:FOOTYN or WP:GNG. If someone can locate WP:RS to show notability I am happy to revist my !vote Lightburst (talk) 16:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep They finished 3rd in the 2006-07 season in the 2nd division. Also there is this book for GNG purposes. Dougal18 (talk) 21:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as above, played at a sufficiently high enough level to presume GNG is met, and there are sources out there. Needs improving, not deleting. GiantSnowman 13:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Played in the national cup and the 2nd division. That's sufficient. Also, notability is not temporary. Smartyllama (talk) 14:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not necessarily arguing that they're no longer notable, I'm saying that per GNG they never were. Primefac (talk) 14:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I wasn't clear - that last part was directed at No Great Shaker, who changed their !vote after realizing the club was dissolved. If it were notable when it existed, then it's still notable. Smartyllama (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as above, but improve. RockingGeo (talk) 06:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)


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