Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oroville Fire Department (California)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. (Non-administrator closure.) -- do ncr  am  23:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Oroville Fire Department (California)

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No real usefull information and no valid citations. Zackmann08 (talk) 18:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep and cleanup Neither of the given reasons in the nomination for deletion are valid reasons to delete; they are reasons to cleanup. See Category:Fire departments in California for examples of other simlar articles, which can be used to improve the article.  Gaff (talk) 18:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

"Hello. I was hoping you could help me. I saw your comments regarding my nomination of Oroville Fire Department (California) for deletion. There is something I have never understood about the process and I was hoping you could help me understand. If I were to create a page for another fire department with the same level of effort as that page, it would surely be deleted in a matter of days. Why is it that pre-existing pages seem to get a pass? To be clear, I'm NOT arguing with your comments, just trying to understand. Thank you in advance! --Zackmann08 (talk) 06:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)"
 * Comments left by on my talk page Gaff (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Response: You are certainly allowed to disagree with me, as I am often wrong!  It can be a philosophical debate sometimes as to whether or not to keep or delete. I am more inclined to keep neutral stubs written about neutral topics, not seeking to promote the next big thing (whether that is a new real-estate developer or the band three guys started, who plan to get big in Japan).  The level of effort is not so important, if the topic is notable and the article can be cleaned up (WP:Potential).  I was also in a good mood when I !voted keep and my uncle lives in Oroville (WP:COI?  The age of the article is irrelevant, as you point out. I did not check the age of this article, until running it through a program to see if it might be new enough to get through a DYK.  Cheers and thank you for your interest in Wikipedia! Gaff (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  21:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep and cleanup did a great job cleaning it up. I withdraw my nomination and vote to keep it. :-) --Zackmann08 (talk) 20:24, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Not to split hairs, but most of the work put in, including added references, logo, and expanding the article was done by another editor... :) Gaff (talk) 23:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * WOW. Egg all over my face... This is what happens when you don't really look at the history... -_- --Zackmann08 (talk) 23:39, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * LOL. No worries! I could tell that was what happened and just thought it was funny to point out. Cheers! Gaff (talk) 23:58, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


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