Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orthodox Church of the East


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   05:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Orthodox Church of the East

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Okay, this is going to be hard to follow for anyone not familiar with the subject. This article asserts that claim that there was an Oriental Orthodox church in Persia named the "Orthodox Church of the East" that spread Christianity to India. In reality, there was a historical body of Oriental Orthodox Christians in Persia (the Maphrianate of the Syriac Orthodox Church), but this was not a distinct church and it was never called the "Orthodox Church of the East". Additionally, this body had nothing to do with the spread of Christianity to India - this was done by the Church of the East. Oriental Orthodox Christianity was not brought to India until the 17th century. Another editor later added some cited material about what is actually known about Christianity in India that refutes the original claims, which ironically gives the impression that the article as a whole is well sourced. But it's an irreparable mess. Returns for the phrase "Orthodox Church of the East" on Google Books are references to the Orthodox Church, and very occasionally to the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church of India. Cúchullain t/ c 12:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —Cúchullain t/ c  13:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  —Cúchullain t/ c  13:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Support deletion. Esoglou (talk) 13:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Whilst much of the articel is sourced the key claims are not. The only sources I cn find all refer to the Eastern Orthodox Church.Slatersteven (talk) 13:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. David V Houston (talk) 14:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I find the arguments of the nom convincing. If this is about anything, it is about a church in communion with the Patriarchs of Antich and Constantinople.  If so, it is probably about how an Orthodox church outside the boundaries of the Roman and Byzantine Empire was governed.  The article seems to jump several hundred years from events, probably of the late 1st millenium, to Marco Polo to a book of 1507: this is the sign of a poor article.  This is unless it is really the case that nothing else is known, in which case the article should say so.  Several articles on eastern churches were some time ago tagged as needing the attentions of an expert.  Nevertheless, I wonder whether this article should not be converted to a redirect, rahter than deleted.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.