Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orthodox parishes in Arkansas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tone 15:25, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Orthodox parishes in Arkansas

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At a previous AfD, I made the tactical mistake of bundling 5 lists together. Now, let's go one by one. Would anyone like to argue that a list of seven non-notable parishes constitutes a notable topic for a list? Biruitorul Talk 19:07, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge with parent pages for their respective jurisdictions. This is not an article but a collection of external links. This idea could be revisited if and when there is an actual article to write on the Orthodox presence in Arkansas. Until then this is list cruft. TomPointTwo (talk) 19:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete How bizarre that there's no List of Orthodox parishes in the United States, but we've got someone making individual articles for Alaska, California, D.C., etc.  I have a feeling that someone did it that way because they didn't want to make an incomplete article.  The solution isn't fifty-one separate articles.  This is something one would work on in user space.  Maybe one of the five articles is "really, really good" and it can be renamed and the other state articles can be merged to it.  Mandsford (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete there are other articles like this, such as Orthodox parishes in Washington D.C. and List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska, but they too have the same troubles that this one does. The collection itself isn't notable, and there's no valuable content worth merging elsewhere, as it all consists of improper external links. I suppose an encyclopedic article can be written about this subject, examining the history of the churches and of the religion in Arkansas, but the directory information that is here wouldn't be a part of that article.  Them From  Space  11:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep -- I do not see why a list article of this kind is objectionable, but it should be List of Orthodox parishes in Arkansas. We also have Category:Lists of Orthodox parishes in the United States, which is also appropriate.  I list article for whole US would probably not be.  The possible problem with this article is that it is a mere link farm, but I am not sure that that is objectionable: the article covers various denominations, and is thus somethign that would not be readily available elsewhere.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, a List of Orthodox parishes in the United States would be quite appropriate, since the number of these that are notable is quite small. If we thus meaningfully restricted the list (à la List of churches that are National Historic Landmarks in the United States, as opposed to pure directory material like List of churches in Sweden), then I don't see a problem with that. But a list of external links to seven parishes, none of which is remotely notable on its own? That seems a stretch in notability terms.
 * As to the "not readily available elsewhere" argument: well, perhaps. But since when is aggregating information not readily available elsewhere our function? - Biruitorul Talk 19:35, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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