Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ortolana


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The result was keep. The result was keep. The French article has lots of sources which could be used to expand the article here. Basa lisk inspect damage⁄berate 01:08, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Ortolana

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notability tagged for two years. just a one-off in a who's-who somewhere Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. It might help,  if you said something more precise than "one-off" and" a whos's-who somewhere." It seems she'a "blessed" Roman Catholic from the 13th century, who is the mother of Saint Clare of Assisi and Saint Agnes of Assisi. I know notability is not inherited, but considering that the first is one of the most important of all Roman Catholic saints, with a world-wide fame and influence for the past 7 centuries and continuing today, and the second a less famous but almost as important saint, they will be discuss in every bio. of St. Clare or book about the history of the Franciscans. There's a long article on her in frWP, with 11 separate references.  DGG ( talk ) 14:01, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * FWIW, I have tagged it for expansion from the French. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep more than meets the GNG. Notability is not inherited, but because she was the mother of arguably the most significant female saint of the Middle Ages, she is inevitably covered in depth in multiple sources: just think of all the biographies that have been written on Clare of Assisi. Here are several   . These are just English-language sources for a beatified individual who is not popular in the English-speaking world. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:55, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe you mean "beatified"? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed, . Autocorrect is not kind for such words it seems. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:20, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - a Blessed of the Catholic Church. That alone conveys notability, as far as I'm concerned. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:38, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- has a well developed article on fr.wiki, with sufficient sourcing: link. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:53, 14 July 2017 (UTC)


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