Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ospina Coffee Company


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Nominator agreed to close after I rewrote the article. Ikip 01:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Ospina Coffee Company

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This page was created by User:Grancafe, and it appears from his user page that he is the owner of the company. I added unreferenced, spam, and notability notices to the article shortly after its creation. The article's creator subsequently expanded it and removed the templates, but did not address any of these issues, and solicited feedback on the article at Talk:Ospina Coffee Company. I described the problems with the article there at about this time yesterday, but the article has not been substantially changed since then. The article has no citations or references to anything but other Wikipedia articles, which, as I wrote on the article's talk page are not reliable sources for citation purposes. It does not give evidence of substantial coverage in independent and reliable sources, and thus appears to fail the notability guidelines for corporations. It is also written in a self-promotional tone, which, combined with the conflict of interest of its creator, make its unsupported assertions yet more dubious. The subject has about 5,600 Google hits, but the first several pages of results are commercial in nature and do not appear to include reliable, independent sources. It appears that some of the company's previous owners were notable for other reasons and have articles, so perhaps the content that is relevant to those people could be merged there, and the rest deleted. Opus 113 (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The article was previously deleted as a copyvio at Ospina coffee. If what is stated is true, the company is notable and should have an article (also as the company that several notable Colombian politicians worked in). It should be possible to cite information about the company from sources about these people; however, in a cursory search I have been unable to do so. Any Spanish speakers around? If there are no sources to be found, I would recommend deletion until our verifiability policy can be demonstrably met. —Кузьма討論 15:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In particular, I can't even figure out the name of the original company (I assume it was not in English). The present-day US company would be a lot less notable without the historical connections and the claim of continuity, which still seem completely unsourced. —Кузьма討論 17:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Privet Kusma, google translate says that Ospina coffee is "de café de Ospino" Ikip 22:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

(Note: The collapsed section is a copy of Talk:Ospina Coffee Company as it appeared when User:Grancafe posted it here.--Opus 113 (talk) 04:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
 * Response
 * Comment. See this search for some potentially useful references from reliable sources. - Eastmain (talk) 04:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you search for Ospina Coffee rather than Ospina Coffee Company, you will get better results. - Eastmain (talk) 05:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * More references can be found at http://www.accessmylibrary.com/search/?q=Ospina+coffee  -- Eastmain (talk) 05:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- Quantumobserver (talk) 05:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, --Grancafe (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.