Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Otello (López Cobos recording)


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The result was keep. Consensus was the subject passes WP:NALBUM (non-admin closure) Rollidan (talk) 20:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Otello (López Cobos recording)

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Fails all of the criteria of WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines. -- Softlavender (talk) 20:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright.Smerus (talk) 06:56, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. The criteria in WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines is from an essay by a WikiProject and does not carry the broad support of wikipedia policy. Further, this guideline section is currently being considered for removal for WP:NPOV concerns, as well as its conflict with the policy at WP:NALBUM.4meter4 (talk) 01:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets the criteria of WP:NALBUM. It has multiple reviews. In addition to several in Gramophone over the years and Stereo Review (all already cited in the article), there's one in the New York Times and a one paragraph entry in the The Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music (rated "Outstanding" and the only entry for that opera). It was broadcast in its entirety on WXQR, and excerpts on other NPR stations. e.g.  and on the BBC  and Radio France  to name a few. It is also the first full-length recording of an important work. The criteria from WikiProject Classical music cited in the nom is merely a WikiProject essay, unlike those at WP:NALBUM which is an official guideline. As for potential copyvio issues in the "Reviews" section, that can be truncated to simply listing the reviews and re-expanded later. The entire article doesn't need deletion, if the subject is notable. Voceditenore (talk) 13:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Voceditenore.4meter4 (talk) 02:50, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, frankly, i am surprised that such an experienced editor (hi :)) would nominate so many articles without any apparent WP:BEFORE, anyway, another album that easily meets WP:NALBUM with numerous reviews. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:11, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issue has now been addressed - brief quotes from reviews will be supplied in due course. As the first major recording of the opera, the album is of fundamental importance to the history of the work. See Opera, December 1979, p. 1167; Opera Now, November/December 1998, p. 43; The Musical Times, May 1980, p. 323; Clyde T. McCants's American Opera Singers and their Recordings, 2004, p. 365; Music and Musicians, Vol. 28, 1979, p. 32; Classic CD, Issues 32-43,1993, p. 10; Ovation, Vol. 1, 1980, p. 37; Matthew Boyden and Nick Kimberley's The Rough Guide to Opera, 2002, p. 177; The Penguin Guide to Opera on Compact Disc, 1993, p. 369; The Penguin Guide to Compact Discs and DVDs Yearbook, 2004, p. 315; The Penguin Guide to Compact Discs, 2001, p. 1092; Die Bühne, Issues 244-255, 1979, p. 256; Records in Review, 1981, p. 261; George Birnbaum's Classical CD Scout, 1996, p. 277; BBC Music Magazine, Vol. 3, Issues 1-6, 1994, p. 136; The Opera Companion, 1983, p. 14; Charles Osborne's The Bel Canto Operas of Rossini, Donizetti and Bellini, 1994, p. 357; The New Yorker, Vol, 55, Part 8, 1979, p. 81; Stereophile, Vol. 24, Issues 7-12, p. 145.Niggle1892 (talk) 12:10, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


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