Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Otis Wiley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Secret account 22:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Otis Wiley

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He does not meet WP:Athlete, never played in an NFL game, and he did not have a notable college career Yankees10 22:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * wait a little bit Just because he doesn't have notability LISTED on wikipedia, does not mean he isn't notable. He had a very notable college career. I'm working on expanding the article right now, which should meet notability guidelines after that.RF23 (talk) 22:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Never played with Detroit, odds of having a pro career are slim. Fails WP:ATH.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 22:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy if result is delete or Keep I think mid-season all-american and first team all big ten is notable enough. (And is it me or does WP:ATH need to be expanded? I've seen articles that have been kept because it's a freshman starting at some huge school like USC or OSU). Wiley started at MSU in a season which went to a BCS bowl.. which should be "competed at the highest amateur level of a sport". RF23 (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Just because he started a bowl game also doesnt mean hes notable, there was also 21 other players who started in that game, are they all notable to? I dont think so.--Yankees10 22:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No WP:ATH doesn't need to be expanded because players like Tate Forcier, Matt Barkley and Terrelle Pryor are notable per WP:GNG which Wiley isn't.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 22:54, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * If anything WP:Athlete needs to be re-worded so that a bunch of no name college players dont stay created when they are nominated. Example Brandon Jackson (wide receiver), there is no reason whatsoever that this player should have an article. Non-notable college career. Hasnt been on a roster for over a year. But people still believes hes notable.--Yankees10 22:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I still think having major awards like all-big ten and mid-season all-american make him notable.. but anyways:


 * "Significant coverage": a Google search of "Otis Wiley" gives over 21,800 results, which seems like significant coverage to me. the others seem good, can you explain how he does not meet GNG. RF23 (talk) 23:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here, WP:GNG is a partial concern - I'd be more concerned with WP:ATHLETE at this point. Examining now. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 19:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Additional note, Google hit counts are usually not a count of notability. Those constitute how many times the name occurs on the 'net - which can mean anything. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Coverage is lacking as far as his playing.  Doesn't pass WP:ATHLETE.  I know there's the college career, but ATHLETE doesn't account for this, and WP:OUTCOMES seems to hint that these tend to go away. Frankly, college ball players don't tend to be notable unless they have something in WP:BIO to warrant it, and I'm not seeing anything here.  I will also grant that he's been drafted by NFL, but he never actually competed, as per the article - he was dismissed pre-season. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 19:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment His being cut pre-season is kind of irrelevant due to the nature of it. He had a lingering knee injury, and failed his physical. Most players who fail their physicals don't make it to another team. If it wasn't for the knee injury, he would likely be a backup or a practice squad player. RF23 (talk) 23:15, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Well he never did sign again, and he ISNT a backup or on a practice squad. There is no guaranty he would have anyway. So just because an injury might have kept him of a roster, doesnt meen he is notable.--Yankees10 23:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


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