Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Our Last Summer (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 04:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Our Last Summer
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Fails notability per WP:MUSIC. Album track only, never released as a single in any territory Paul75 (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect/merge to Super Trouper (album) as we did with another song on the same album. (Articles for deletion/The Piper (ABBA song)) The textsheet for my copy of the Super Trouper CD noted that "Our Last Summer" was ABBA's favorite song of Super Trouper, but I don't think it ever was a single. Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is sourced, with "enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article". Song was "performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups": ABBA, A*Teens and Hazell Dean. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as above  Chzz  ►  15:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Meets WP:NSONGS due to coverage by multiple notable artists. Songs do not have to be released as singles to be notable.  While most ABBA album tracks certainly are not notable, this one, in addition to ceverage by other artists, was deemed important enough for inclusion in an ABBA greatest hits album, plus of course it was covered in the Mamma Mia show and movie.  And there are already a number of sources in the article and others available to expand the article further, if someone wants to.  I'm not sure what changed since the prior AfD a few months ago resulted in a consensus to keep that warranted another AfD (only thing that changed that I am aware of is release of the Mamma Mia DVD that included this song, which should not have reduced its notability), but it still warrants keep. Rlendog (talk) 17:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Being included on two ABBA tribute albums is not really being "covered by multiple artists" and I don't believe that the fact the song was in a successful movie/theatre show is enough to make the song notable in itself. The information can readily be assimilated into either the Super Trouper article or the Mamma Mia! article. Paul75 (talk) 07:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Except that it has been recorded by at least three artists notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. Being in a successful movie and theater show may not make the song notable in itself, but adds extra weight to the notability from its multiple recording artists and multiple sources.  After all, this particular song was one of the few album tracks chosen for that movie/show, which implies some level of additional notability to this particular song over other album tracks (and some singles that weren't chosen either). Rlendog (talk) 18:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment it was most likely chosen to be in the musical/film simply because the lyrics fitted the story, not because of some "special" notabilityPaul75 (talk) 09:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: non-notable non-charting song. JamesBurns (talk) 09:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 11:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Except that it meets the criteria in WP:MUSIC stating that songs "that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." Rlendog (talk) 21:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - song which did not chart. JoannaMinogue (talk) 08:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yes, all songs that chart are notable (though might not warrent articles). That said, not charting does not make the song non-notable, as discussed above. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm not convinced this is a notable track. A-Kartoffel (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - I'm borderline on this one. I think it just barely passes WP:NSONGS, per SummerPhd's argument. It is in fact preformed by three independent music groups, but I can see that the fact that the song was never released as a single does detract from its notability. However, in my opinion, it is just notable enough. FingersOn  Roids  01:16, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.