Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outer Drive


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The result was keep.  MBisanz  talk 01:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Outer Drive
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As sourced the article is sourced to a hyper local, weekly publication article, some google maps results, and one set of comments on a local radio station. This is not the thing that a reliable article is made of. Which is reflected by this article often having unsourced points, that often are just plain false. Up until earlier today it claims Outer Drive was unusually in having a speed limit of 35 miles per hour. No one who drives the streets of Detroit would agree with such a statement. In many suburbs of Detroit most main throughfares have speed limits of 45 mph, but in the city of Detroit this is not the case. Jefferson along by Belle Isle and elsewhere has a speed limit of 35 mph. In fact, 35 mph overall in the city is above average, there are lots of essentially main streets with posted speed limits at 30 mph. Likewise, the claim that Outre Drive allowing direct left turns in unusual could only be written by a suburbanite, there are several roads with grassy medians in Detroit that allow direct left turns, a few of them short distances from the office where I sit. Outer Drive is a significant road in Detroit, but I do not think it is significant enough to merit an article. It is either as significant or just a little less so than the mile roads, and the mile spaced east west streets. It is not as significant as the 6 spoke streets coming from the center of Detroit. As far as I can tell we have articles on only 3 of those, but those infact are redirects to articles on a much larger numbered route system those roads are part of. Roads need to be sourced to reliable sources showing broad importance, that is totally lacking here. A brief mention of Outer Drive may be worth having in the article on Detroit, on the article Roads and freeways in metropolitan Detroit, but I really do not see enough sourcing to justify a free standing article. John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  20:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per WP:GEOROAD and WP:NEXIST. Also nothing wrong with the current reference. On the contrary. It's an excellent article. gidonb (talk) 02:57, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Although the article could use a good cleanup, Outer Drive is a well known roadway within the area, and it has local significance. -Notorious4life (talk) 05:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.