Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outline of the South Island


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. To author of article please leave me a message on talk page if you want a copy of the article on a userfied page. Thanks. JForget 00:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Outline of the South Island

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Copies information already found at South Island and other pages; appears to be nothing but a list of links. I can't see any CSD category that fits this. Article creator seems to be, in good faith, creating articles and uploading files relating to a fictitious country of "Zealandia", which is comprised of South Island. NellieBly (talk) 01:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is no place for fictional countries unless they are notable. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a fictional country. It's not even a country!  The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The South Island is not a country.- gadfium 02:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That was a typo. The editor copied another outline as a starting point, and didn't place a construction tag on it. The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not concerned about a typo. Such outlines may be appropriate for countries, they may even be appropriate for states/provinces/regions, but although the outline creator might wish it to be, the South Island is not such a political entity.- gadfium 22:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Serves no useful purpose. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 02:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's WP:USELESS. It's barely even started.  The outline was tagged for AfD when it was 2 minutes old!  Let us move it to draft space so we can work on it.  The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. - gadfium  02:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete- SimonLyall (talk) 03:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No reason given (see NOREASON. The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, it's like a shell of/collection of links for/ the South Island article. XLerate (talk) 04:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a work-in-progress - the editor barely had time to sneeze let alone add content to the outline. Looking around Wikipedia, I see enough coverage to warrant an outline.  And since the South Island article needs cleaning up, an outline would be a great place to start.  See reverse outlining.  The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is overreaching by the Outlines WikiProject. An outline would need to be on a topic that is difficult to navigate. In this case, an island, I think an outline is redundant to the real article. 96.10.153.234 (talk) 10:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We weren't involved. But we are now.  Expect a new outline soon (few weeks, tops... hey, we're busy!).  The Transhumanist  20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that WikiProject Outline of knowledge was involved in the creation of this article. However, I have notified them of this deletion discussion.- gadfium 23:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The Transhumanist 20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Wholly unnecessary. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:09, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No reason given. (i.e., why is it unnecessary?) The Transhumanist 20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Move to user sandbox - the creator is obviously tinkering. No harm in letting him continue his experiment if he wants, out of the main namespace.  In the future, feel free to simply move drafts like this to WP:WPOOK's draft space (by renaming it to WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of ______) and we'll be happy to join in on the tinkering to see if we can make it work.  (Be sure to drop a note at WT:WPOOK when you do).  Thank you.  The Transhumanist  23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem with that is that there's no need for an "Outline of the South Island" in the first place, for reasons others have pointed out. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * One reason was in error, one was about a typo, and the rest were for the most part arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, critiquing a few minutes editng that was done to the article at most. That's not much to go on to reach such a sweeping conclusion. The Transhumanist  20:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Userfying is a possibility to consider. If it can help this editor navigate through the listed articles, or tell him which ones are still missing which he wants to create, then isn't that one of the things user subpages are for? Obviously, we are dealing with someone who would want Wikipedia to have more, better articles about the NZ South Island and who's prepared to do some of the hard work. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily. Even assuming good faith intentions of editors, from an objective standpoint there's no reason for a page like this to exist. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * "Objective standpoint" not substantiated. The Transhumanist 20:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Besides, deleted articles can be userfied upon request. See WP:USERFY.  Though that isn't needed in this case, as this was clearly a botched draft. The Transhumanist  20:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - WP:WPOOK's draft space is a safe place to develop outline rough drafts without fear of deletion due to them being too rough. Bare skeletons welcome!  The Transhumanist  23:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.