Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Over-track train station (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Train station. Content can be merged from the history.  Sandstein  08:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Over-track train station
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I propose that the article "Over-track train station" be deleted for the following two reasons: 1. The subject is not notable; and 2. Inadequate referencing. The only reference on the page is not about the subject at all. Kind regards, JJK2000 (talk) 12:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * delete We keep getting articles on the various arrangements for station facilities, but this is worth no more than a sentence in train station. It's not encyclopedic to blather on at length about things that don't need a lot of explanation. Mangoe (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to train station and, if desirable, selectively merge anything worth covering there. Per Shellwood. 92.24.246.11 (talk) 22:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to train station, this is all a bit vague and I think the various station configurations can easily be covered briefly in the train station article with less waffle. NemesisAT (talk) 09:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. As discussed in Articles for deletion/Over-track train station first AFD by myself and User:Bearian (and where User:Mangoe disagreed), this is a significant design option and there are sources (see the sources given there and more are available too) and it should not just be redirected.
 * I commented at ongoing Articles for deletion/Reverse curve where the same deletion nominator made flat statements without support about supposed non-notability and inadequate referencing. Again, inadequate referencing is justification for tagging an article or for adding references, but is simply not a reason to delete an article.  No references are required in a Wikipedia article, at all;  it is enough that a topic is significant and references out there exist which can be used to develop the topic.  wp:BEFORE apparently not performed here or at other AFDs opened by this nominator (as I explain in the Reverse curve AFD). --Doncram (talk) 22:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, for the reasons that Mangoe listed. Comment. I see that the person who created the article went through an orgy of creating articles about Japanese railway stations over a few weeks in 2012, silent since then. I'm not sure that any of those articles are notable. There are, of course, stations in Japan that are notable, such as those of Tokyo and  Kyoto, but those articles were created earlier by others.  Athel cb (talk) 08:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Expanding a bit on my comment. I have never been to most of the Japanese railway stations for which articles were created in August–September 2012. However, I have been to Kamakura Station: it is a place where trains stop, passengers get out, others get in and others stay in the train. That's about all there is to say about it. If the article were deleted hardly anyone would notice. I suspect that the same is true of nearly all the other articles about Japanese stations created in August–September 2012. Having said that, I emphasize that Kamakura itself is most definitely notable, being one of the few places in the Tokyo-Yokohama area that escaped obliteration in the Second World War.  Athel cb (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Further comment and correction. On checking further I see that I was I was mistaken in thinking that most of the articles for Japanese railway stations were created in August–September 2012. The one for Kamakura Station already existed, for example. However, I continue to think that it is not notable.  Athel cb (talk) 12:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per my reasons at Articles for deletion/Over-track train station. I would kike to fix it, but don't have time right now. Bearian (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per consensus at Articles for deletion/Over-track train station.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   11:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to train station and merge any relevant information. Yes, it's a significant design option, and yes, there may well be sources, but no one has added them since the last AfD discussion which was 4 years ago. There are lots of significant considerations in designing a station, and this is just one. There is already a section on Station Configurations in Train station, which could do the job, or if there's too much, you could break out into a new section on station designs. The text of this stand-alone article seems to be blatantly obvious things, artificially stretched out ("It is also necessary to move vertically to get between the station building and any platform." Doh, who'd have thought it??) Elemimele (talk) 12:18, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to train station. Lilporchy (talk) 01:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.