Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Over The Top Wrestling


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Sandstein  19:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Over The Top Wrestling

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Article does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:ORG  Galatz Talk  14:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions.  Galatz  Talk  14:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  Galatz  Talk  14:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep the promotion in question has had articles by PWI Insider 1, PWI insider 2, Figure 4 Online, National Newspaper Irish Mirror. Lee Vilenski(talk) 14:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Both PWI Insider "articles" were written by Matthew Macklin, who according to his Twitter, is associated with Over The Top Wrestling. The Figure 4 Online "article" is fan-submitted WP:ROUTINE match results. None of those sources count towards notability. Nikki♥311 23:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * A national newspaper doesn't count toward notability? I'm a little bit surprised that could ever be said. Lee Vilenski(talk) 09:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't say that. I stated that the PWI and Figure 4 sources don't count toward notability and provided rationale. I never said the Irish Mirror didn't, or I would have provided rationale for that as well. Nikki♥311 14:11, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

*Keep Tone seems good and fact based, and sources seem notable. Schracq (talk) 21:17, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * See SPI. Unscintillating (talk) 14:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have struck out his comments as it has been confirmed and he has been blocked see Sockpuppet investigations/Kingshowman/Archive -  Galatz Talk  14:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Delete The sources do not confirm what is written in the article, in particular, the Irish Mirror only mentions OTTW, but says nothing about talent coming in "worldwide", yet that is the claim in the article. The article itself is written as an advertisement.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ   00:07, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-notable business and the sources are minor. A business, happens every day. Hey you, yeah you! (talk) 18:18, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * At this point, it's fair to question whether you do any research whatsoever on any of these business articles, or if you instead simply repeat variations of the same meaningless rationale. I suspect the latter option is correct. Lepricavark (talk) 21:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that User:Hey you, yeah you! seems to have been permanently blocked for disrupting Wikipedia to make a point - their conduct at AFDs was the primary concern thus I've taken the liberty of striking their !vote from the discussion. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 00:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Irregardless of what is said in the article, the point of an AfD is if the article meets WP:GNG. If it does, and a section isn't referenced properly, then use a tag. There are quite a few articles in the Irish mirror Irish Mirror 2, Joe.com, Irish Mirror 3, Irish Mirror 4, Irish Mirror 4, Irish Mirror 5, Irish Mirror 6,Belfast Live, Irish Mirror 7, UK Mirror, Irish Times  Lee Vilenski(talk) 09:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep, the criteria is not weather or not the sources are present in the article, but if there is significant third-party coverage in reliable sources, I'd say that the Irish Mirror and Belfast Live sources cited above meets the criteria.  MPJ  -DK 22:07, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:51, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   22:08, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I think this passes GNG by the skin of its teeth. I'm also apprehensive that this will grow out of control like other articles on tiny promotions from the British Isles (i.e. Progress Wrestling and Defiant Wrestling).LM2000 (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - For coverage in multiple Irish Mirror articles, the Belfast Live article, and Irish Times article. <b style="color: Teal;">Nikki</b><b style="color: Salmon;">♥</b><b style="color: Purple;">311</b> 23:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a nn wrestling promotion; sources in the article are passing mentions and mostly not about the company. Fails WP:NCORP / WP:CORPDEPTH. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you take a look at any of the links above. They are national newspapers with articles specifically about the company. Lee Vilenski(talk) 10:48, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep -- Irish Mirror and Belfast Live sources cited meets the criteria for notability. Jefstevens (talk) 06:00, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. At the very least meets the WP:GNG. gidonb (talk) 13:45, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


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