Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Overseas Family School


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The result was delete and redirect to List of international schools in Singapore. Daniel (talk) 01:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Overseas Family School

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The only source in the article is the school's own website and I can't find any meaningful, independent English-language coverage of this school. There may be coverage in one of Singapore's other national languages, but I don't think this is notable. It's also clearly promotional and basically amounts to a website mirror, for what it's worth. Best, Blablubbs | talk 11:50, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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See Overseas Family School. – Cupper 52 Discuss! 21:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep There are more sources than just its website. – Cupper 52 Discuss! 13:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * @Cupper52 could you link me to those sources? Best, Blablubbs | talk 21:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , could you point out the specific reference you're talking about? Because 5 of 6 sources seem to be the school's website, and the sixth doesn't seem to mention the school at all. Blablubbs | talk 22:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - There seems to be some pretty substantial coverage available online, like this story. The article as written is of course quite inadequate (citing only to the school's website and a site that doesn't reference the school at all), but I don't think the school can be written off as non-notable. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know what other sources there might be but I just want to point out that that SCMP article is an advertisement, and not an independent source - the byline states it was written by an "advertising partner", which links to a disclaimer that "This content has been created under the direction of an advertiser. It contains no editorial input or review from the South China Morning Post (SCMP), nor does it reflect the position of, or the editorial standards used by, the SCMP. The advertiser has paid for and approved the content." Spicy (talk) 15:22, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thanks for catching that: I'm not sure how I missed it. The school's notability is more-or-less borderline, so I'm not going to opine on it. I will note, however, that if the topic is determined to be non-notable, the page should be redirected to List of international schools in Singapore. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You got in before me! It and the article are written in 'promotional English' may be by the same person? If there were some WP:RS it could be a good topic for an article. Keep on looking but I am not hopeful. ClemRutter (talk) 15:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment There aren't really any independent sources on this that I can find on Google. However, NLB's NewspaperSG archive has some articles (mostly from Business Times) on the school. However, the articles are mostly not viewable from home. Eliyr (talk) 05:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, nice find. Can you say anything about the reliability of the Business Times? One of the titles in there (Elementary school develops rounded, confident, globally-minded citizens) is a little concerning to me. I'm also not sure whether this coverage exceeds WP:ROUTINE, but I think that will be almost impossible to tell without direct access to the sources. Best, Blablubbs | talk 11:41, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I would consider Business Times to be a reliable source, though I find a bit strange for a financial newspaper to have numerous articles on a school. The independence of Business Times from the school is questionable, considering they have this entirely promotion page for the school on their website despite being a newspaper. Additionally, pretty much all the Business Times articles are from 7 June 2002, so I can't say it is WP:SUSTAINED. Eliyr (talk) 13:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: It appears that Business Times had a Overseas Family School REPORT on that day, which would explain the significant coverage. If you view the preview image of this page on the right you can see the header. Eliyr (talk) 13:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's a direct link to the image I am referring to Eliyr (talk) 13:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this, . Agreed about the independence part – I'm pretty certain this is all native advertising. Blablubbs | talk 13:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete due to not meeting the bar for notability. Since all the sources seem to be advertising masquerading as legitimate articles. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The article is rather promotional and has lack of independent sources, hence failing WP:GNG. The only online sources I can find don't appear to be independent and are likely promotional, meaning that the page has little potential to be rewritten to pass GNG. — Eliyr  [  talk  ]  12:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


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