Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Liberal Democrats


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Insufficient discussion for consensus.  Sandstein  11:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Oxford University Liberal Democrats

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (companies) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:Aloneinthewild who wrote on talk "Previously prod'd. Although this is a poorly written article, there are enough sources just going a google search, its previous forms "Oxford University Liberal Club", Russell Club, and the Palmerston Club are possibly also notable". Sadly, WP:GOOGLEHITS is one of classic arguments to avoid in AfDs; mentions in passing =/= notability. In the following month the article has been expanded a bit by User:AdamPeterHiggins and several IPs but I am afraid that it still fails to convey its significance - sources are primarily the club website; red flags such as links to Facebook and Twitter as sources don't help, either... Unless someone can point to a reliable source that discusses the club's significance in detail, or the subject in depth, this is something that belongs on Oxford University wikia (if it existed, which it sadly doesn't...), not in Wikipedia. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:21, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:15, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I would recommend KEEP for two reasons:
 * 1. There is an independent history of the organisation, as listed at https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Kissing_Your_Sister.html?id=nr8KtwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
 * 2. Comparable political clubs and societies of Oxford University are also the topic of Wikipedia articles, and meet the notability guidelines, namely:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University_Conservative_Association
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University_Labour_Club
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Union
 * I accept the point that the article at present is rather poorly-written, and poorly-referenced. However, the above would seem to be grounds for beefing up the article with rewrites rather than deletion.Debonairchap (talk) 12:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The independent history seems to be self-published; I cannot find ISBN nor a wordlcat entry. As such, I am afraid it is difficult to consider it a reliable source. How do you know it is independent, and not a brochure published by the club in question? And WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument, I am afraid. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:26, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 04:24, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


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