Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Mountaineering Club


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  J 947  00:28, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Oxford University Mountaineering Club

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The article seems to rely heavily for its existence on the fact that it had lots of famous members, in violation of WP:INHERITORG. There is no indication that the expeditions to Everest and Kangchenjunga, which dominate the article, were in any way associated with the club other than the fact that they involved people who were, or had been, members of the club.

If the expeditions with no explicit link to the club are removed, this would leave only more general statements near the start and end of the article, which although potentially more promising for establishing the club's notability in its own right, are not sourced. Namely:

The club has taken a significant part in the development of mountaineering in the United Kingdom

and

The OUMC also has a long history of exploratory mountaineering in the greater ranges, with expeditions having visited and made first ascents of peaks in Greenland, Spitsbergen, Peru, Wakhan, Kishtwar, the Karakoram and the Himalayas, among others.

A big problem here is that despite the long list of destinations, no specific details of expeditions are provided that would be of assistance in finding sources (who? when? which peaks?). Template messages regarding the sourcing and notability issues were added four years ago, and there have been no substantive edits since. Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I have now found a mention in a paragraph here which speaks of the club in high terms, but only in passing. I could not find media coverage which really concentrates on the club. The only other media sources I can see are references to the death in 2008 of a former club president, with no indication either that the club was involved (she had left the university) or that she was famous (other than for the fact that she died in a tragic accident, and in any case WP:INHERITORG would still apply). --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 19:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - the club's history isn't really my bag, but it's a famous and old club; it's mentioned in any number of books; and its leading figures were distinguished in climbing many famous mountains. As for inheritance, how about we say "nonsense": a club is composed of its members, and if they did great things, that's the club for you. I should have thought it an obvious keep as a notable organisation. I've added a few citations; there are many more available. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep AfD is not cleanup. It is easy to find more sources such as 100 years of the OUMC. Andrew D. (talk) 19:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - lots of sources out there. I note that the club library is now held by the Radcliffe Science Library . Jonathan A Jones (talk) 12:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.